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What should I do with old, bowed support slats?

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04 Feb 2013 08:22 #61 by Phoenix
Hi jamusued,

You're very welcome ... I'm glad it could help you :)

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13 Feb 2013 17:49 #62 by bob.hawk
Hi,
I would like to put a 10 inch 100% Natural Talalay 3-layer mattress on a vertical Murphy bed, but have been told that it would slump. Has anyone had any experience with this? Could tabs be sewn into the mattress cover at the top and sides which snap onto the frame to prevent slumping, in addition to the straps across the across the mattress face that are part of the original Murphy bed system?
Also, does anyone have any experience with buying a "Next Bed" (a metal frame Murphy bed requiring assembly) from either wallbedsbywilding.com or murphybeds.com. The advertised beds appear similar, but the later is $80 more expensive, charges shipping, and has a 5-year guarantee instead of a lifetime one.
Thanks,
Bob

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13 Feb 2013 23:40 - 05 Aug 2014 14:05 #63 by Phoenix
Hi bob.hawk,

While I don't have any direct experience with this combination I have talked with a few wallbed (murphybed) manufacturers and latex mattress manufacturers and there seems to be a consensus that this may not be the best combination.

Latex is very "floppy" and elastic and a tight cover ... a strap in the middle of the mattress ...and laminated (glued) layers may make a difference and would probably be the best you could do but even with this the latex may sag internally because of all the time it spends resting on it's edge and "bunch up" in the middle and bottom of the mattress

I think the consensus (and my own "gut feel") is that you would probably be better off with a firm polyfoam base layer (or an innerspring) which is stiffer and then have a glued latex comfort layer over this and use a strap in the middle. I would talk with the manufacturer you are dealing with to see if they offer this or look at other options that offer this type of construction.

No matter how good an all latex mattress may be horizontally ... I don't think it would do as well in a murphybed where it would be spending a lot of it's life in a vertical position.

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Last edit: 05 Aug 2014 14:05 by Phoenix.

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06 Mar 2013 05:34 #64 by firtree
Hi Phoenix,

I'm considering this foundation on Amazon and wonder if you know anything about it: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002KQ5KQ6/ref...1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
I tested something similar at a store some time ago, and really liked the springy feel. I'm waiting to hear from the company regarding how far apart the slats are. It gets great reviews on Amazon, tho wondered if it gets the Phoenix seal of approval. I'm buying latex slabs as I can afford to -- because of cost and heaviness -- stacked single pads are easier for me to move around. Right now I have a 3" extra firm and a 3" wool topper. I hope to get another latex layer soon.

Many thanks!
firtree

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06 Mar 2013 06:33 - 06 Mar 2013 06:33 #65 by Phoenix
Hi firtree,

It's been mentioned a few times on the forum and I've always suggested looking elsewhere based on my research and on the fact that it just doesn't appear to be strong enough or particularly suitable for a latex mattress to me although it does seem that the slats are less than 3" apart. I would personally look for something stronger and wouldn't take the risk of buying it.

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07 Mar 2013 04:53 #66 by firtree
Ok, thanks Phoenix. I hadn't seen it in other discussions -- obviously didn't look deep enough. I appreciate the heads up.

firtree

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07 Mar 2013 06:22 #67 by Phoenix
Hi firtree,

You can see some feedback about it from one of the members who bought it at the end of post #9 here .

There were also a few comments in the feedback from people that it wasn't very strong or it broke and it certainly doesn't look very strong to me and with only a 600 lb weight limit I personally wouldn't trust it.

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07 Mar 2013 11:45 - 16 Jul 2014 17:39 #68 by mimi42
I have ordered a king 13" latex mattress from SleepingOrganic in Charleston, SC. They will be coming to set everything up for me. However, I'm second guessing myself on whether I should have ordered two x-long twins instead of the king. Changing my order would only involve two covers instead of one, since the latex is split down the middle.
Here's the problem. My side of the bed will be on an adjustable base. My husband insisted he preferred to sleep flat (I'm sure the cost was involved) so his side of the bed will be on our original box spring.
The beds will be together in a four poster bed, so keeping the bottom sheet a king sheet is much easier when changing the sheets. In fact, I'm not sure with my back issues, that I'd be able to manage changing two twin bottom sheets.
Do you know of anyone who has used a king latex mattress successfully with the beds being adjusted separately? I should mention, that I would never be raising the back rest all the way up. I don't read or watch TV in bed. I'm just hoping to a little height under my head and legs.
I think getting the two twin covers would give me the option of making the bottom sheet as either one or two.
What do you think?
Last edit: 16 Jul 2014 17:39 by Phoenix.

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07 Mar 2013 16:40 #69 by Phoenix
Hi mimi42,

Do you know of anyone who has used a king latex mattress successfully with the beds being adjusted separately? I should mention, that I would never be raising the back rest all the way up. I don't read or watch TV in bed. I'm just hoping to a little height under my head and legs.


I don't think this would be a good idea at all and I think you would be risking damaging the mattress with two separate bases underneath in two different positions.

The beds will be together in a four poster bed, so keeping the bottom sheet a king sheet is much easier when changing the sheets. In fact, I'm not sure with my back issues, that I'd be able to manage changing two twin bottom sheets.


At least this wouldn't damage the mattress but depending on the difference between the sides I would think the sheets may not stay in place as well either and there is a chance depending on the difference between the sides that they could also be damaged or ripped if he were to sleep in the middle area where there would be nothing underneath them.

I think getting the two twin covers would give me the option of making the bottom sheet as either one or two.
What do you think?


I think that two twins would definitely be a better idea than taking the risk of harming the mattress even though it comes with it's own tradeoffs (the gap in the middle of the bed).

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07 Mar 2013 17:37 - 23 Jul 2015 10:56 #70 by firtree
Thanks, I found it last night. Too bad. I like the idea of wood instead of metal, and I loved the responsiveness of the one I tried in the store (don't know if it was the same brand but very similar in look). Felt like sleeping on air. I've looked at and read reviews about the Ikea Laxeby and it doesn't sound like it has much "spring". I guess I'll keep looking. I have yet to make it over to European Sleep Works, tho they are usually out of my price range, but I'd like to see their slat system and compare it against the Ikea one. Having a thin slab (3" of approx 33 idl) plus my snugglemate isn't quite enough not to feel the foundations and am a little leary of anything too stiff. I know I'll have another layer in my future, tho not sure how soon that will be. I tend to feel everything and want a foundation that gives -- which I never realized until trying that other one out. I've always slept on firm, firm, firm, which seemed fine for a lot of my life, but not so much now.

This brings another question to mind. I do plan to spend more time studying here to figure out if my next layer should be toward the med firm or plush, and wonder if you feel I should get the next layer before I decide on a foundation or get the foundation first? Right now they're on my old mattress because the solid foundation I have for the mattress is just too hard on it's own.

Thank you!
firtree
Last edit: 23 Jul 2015 10:56 by Phoenix. Reason: edit for search terms

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