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Aspen mattress from Denver Mattress 26 Jul 2012 14:09 #1

So far it's been about a week on our Aspen mattress. I'm still adjusting to the firmness of it but am sleeping better than I was. We went from a King to a Queen size and that has been a bigger adjustment than what I thought it would be. Still undecided on whether it gives us enough room even though we are not large people at all. I am sore but was before we ever bought this mattress. I use to have a tremendous amount of hip pain on left side when I laid on that side. I no longer do. I now have soreness in my shoulders but went to chiropractor yesterday knowing I was out in between my shoulder blades and that had nothing to do with mattress. My question is, I'm thinking I do miss the "softness" I was use to and am thinking about a mattress topper. Read your review on the Seven Comforts and was wondering if that might be a good topper for me? Also wanting to buy a topper for my 6 year old skinny son who has a hard mattress and was wondering if this would be ok for him as well? I've also looked at this one for him. www.amazon.com/Sleep-Studio-2-Inch-Mattress-Queen/dp/B002NSLL8W/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hg_2 . Thoughts? Thanks!!

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Re: Aspen mattress from Denver Mattress 26 Jul 2012 14:54 #2

Hi dunbroke,

The first thing I would probably suggest is to give things some time before deciding on a topper. With some of the "non mattress" issues that you are facing and the normal adjustment time of a new sleeping surface ... it would be very easy to make an adjustment now that didn't turn out to be as suitable in a few weeks.

The second thing that may help with the shoulder issues is a pillow. While you don't mention height/weight/sleeping positions ... a new mattress can affect whether the old pillow you were using is still appropriate and keeps you in alignment. A pillow is a significant part of the overall sleeping system and can particularly affect upper body issues.

Finally ... I would tend to avoid memory foam as a choice for any younger child. The product you mention is from China and manufactured by Zinus (the green tea is the giveaway about who makes it) and while they are CertiPur certified ... I personally don't think that memory foam is a good idea at all for children until they have finished growing both because of spinal alignment and development issues and because they don't yet have as developed an immune system as an adult. Slow response materials are just not a great idea for children IMO.

The seven comforts topper is a great product and I would think of it more as fine tuning that can provide localized pressure point relief as opposed to a "non shredded" foam topper that would provide more of a softer surface across the whole mattress and distribute pressure over a larger area of the body. Which would be "best" would depend on the specific "symptoms" you were trying to "correct", the "degree" of pressure relief you were trying to achieve, and the overall "feel" that you liked the best.

Edit: see post #52 here first if you are considering ordering this topper.

I think it would make a good choice for your son but for you I would first wait a bit and then try to get a more accurate sense of whether you were looking more for an overall softer "feel" (which may indicate a low ILD foam topper which would be similar to what many people are used to having in the top of their mattress) and a thicker effective comfort layer or for more localized relief with a slightly firmer "feel" but which would relieve the "symptoms" that were causing issues once the initial adjustment period was done. Bear in mind as well that all of this is very subjective and based on different people's perceptions, on the mattress that it was being added to, and on the wide variety of different body types, sleeping styles, and sensitivities of different people.

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Re: Aspen mattress from Denver Mattress 30 Jul 2012 12:51 #3

We did buy new pillows at the same time we bought our mattress. We ended up with the iso cool side sleeper. A firmer pillow than we are use to but I do believe better for us. I think I'm looking for that softer feel but will give it some more time. Still struggling with the smaller size though:(

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Re: Aspen mattress from Denver Mattress 30 Jul 2012 14:18 #4

Hi dunbroke,

I think the extra loft and firmness of the side sleeper pillow was probably a good idea although it may also take a little getting used to.

As you mentioned there is also a significant width difference between the King size and the Queen and the 16" width difference is especially significant for those who are used to the extra room. Just to put things in perspective ... half of a queen size is only a couple of inches wider than a standard crib size while a King size gives each person the room of a twin size mattress to themselves.

Overall ... if you are looking to adjust the "feel" of the mattress or perhaps minor "symptoms" once the adjustment period is over then this would indicate a fairly minor adjustment and if you have specific more noticeable symptoms (rather than just feel) that are related to the mattress (such as pressure symptoms) and not connected to pre-existing or residual issues from before ... then the "degree" of adjustment would probably be a little more. Typically men have wider but still lighter shoulders relative to their pelvis/hips than women and may need a little thicker/softer comfort layer for side sleeping to "allow" the lighter and wider shoulders to sink in a little more.

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Re: Aspen mattress from Denver Mattress 13 Oct 2012 00:01 #5

So it's a big VETO on the Iso side sleeper pillows. Both me and my husband have woke up with stiff necks. It seems to be too high or thick? Any recommendation on pillows? Both side sleepers.

The Aspen needs some tweaking in my opinion. I think the support is there but wondering if I need a topper to go on for the added softness. I don't ever remember not waking up with a sore back/neck so wonder if it's just me or partly the bed but I do want a little softer feel. Any recommendations? I'm looking at the Seven Comforts latex topper right now.

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Re: Aspen mattress from Denver Mattress 13 Oct 2012 02:05 #6

Hi dunbroke,

Pillows are a very personal item and while there are a few "needs" involved because they are an important part of keeping your upper spine, neck, and head in alignment ... beyond this they are very much a matter of personal preference. The pillow thread here has some good information and links to some good resources which can provide some guidelines and options for pillows but beyond the basic "needs" they are mostly a matter of personal preference.

Side sleepers need thicker pillows than back sleepers or stomach sleepers (which generally do best with thin pillows or none at all) ... but the thickness a side sleeper needs also depends on how far you sink into the mattress (which affects the space between the head and the mattress) and on body type and size as well so yours are probably thicker than you need ... and possibly firmer than you prefer.

A sore neck/back can be a symptom of misalignment but the "fix" depends on where the soreness is. If it's just in the upper body ... then changing the pillow can often resolve the problem. A second issue could be if your shoulders aren't sinking in quite far enough but the aspen is fairly soft so this would be less likely (depending on your height/weight and body type). A more specific set of "symptoms" and their location(s) may help point to the underlying cause of the soreness. Some extra softness may help if the issue is that your shoulders aren't sinking in far enough but it sounds like it could be more of a pillow issue.

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Re: Aspen mattress from Denver Mattress 14 Oct 2012 01:39 #7

5'6" female. 150# muscular build. My lower back is always an issue as well as my neck. Sometimes shoulder soreness but nit very often. Pretty sure I have fibromyalgia but have never seen a dr about it. I know my mom has it so it does run in the family. I will ck the pillow thread. Thank u:)

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Re: Aspen mattress from Denver Mattress 14 Oct 2012 16:57 #8

Hi dunbroke,

I see from your other post that you have headed to Amazon for the Seven Comforts topper.

FWIW ... Coventry (one of our members who writes some great reviews) also purchased their pillow which can be adjusted for different fills and to "match" different sleeping positions. While latex may not be the "feel" you are looking for in a pillow ... you can see her comments and review about their pillow here .

It may also be a good idea to wait until you have the topper before deciding on a pillow because the topper may change the "gap" between the sleeping surface and your head and neck which means it may affect your choice of the "best" pillow for you (although with an adjustable pillow this is much less of an issue).

Phoenix
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Re: Aspen mattress from Denver Mattress 14 Oct 2012 18:16 #9

I'll just do a quick chime in here to say a few things.

1. Phoenix is correct, wait till after you get your topper to adjust your pillow needs. It stinks, I know, but the topper did change my needs in pillows. Hence, my purchasing the nifty pillow I reviewed here. :)

2. It took me about 5 tries to get the right amount of fill in each section of that pillow. I used ziplock 1 gallon bags to put the extra latex 'micro-rods'... I used 5 of them. I literally made another latex pillow from the leftovers. YMMV of course.

3. If I could do it again, I'd get the queen or king size version of this pillow instead of the standard size. I wish there was more room in each of the top 3 sections.

4. The BEST part of this pillow is the sectioned, customizable neck roll. I've TMJ and a disk in my neck that make purchasing pillows problematic. A solid neck roll (the kind my physical therapist recommends) hurts my jaw and skull if I don't lay on it in the 'perfect' position. Yeah, that doesn't happen while I sleep. I seriously just love this neck roll and yes, that is totally subjective, but I had to say it. :)

5. I really really really want to make this pillow with a softer, less crinkly fabric! *weeps big tears* The fabric annoys me on this pillow. Everyone I know seemed to get pregnant within the last 3 months, so I still haven't gotten to knit my pillowcase for this pillow. This is the worst thing (in my opinion) about this pillow and would purchase it in a heartbeat in another type of fabric.

I'm sick today (flu) so I blame any incoherence on the drugs and lack of sleep.

I should update my review with these items in it... maybe after a nap.

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Re: Aspen mattress from Denver Mattress 15 Oct 2012 22:27 #10

Thank u both for your help!! You don't know how much I appreciate it:)

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