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13 May 2019 11:38 - 13 May 2019 13:34 #401 by clairechristian47
Hi Sensei,

I ended up purchasing the Gratitude. I liked the idea of the more natural outer materials of the Dahlia, but this time I was feeling a pressure point through the hip so eliminated that. I didn't feel a huge difference between the Silver Lake and the Gratitude, but my friend (and the store manager) said my spinal alignment was slightly better on the Gratitude, so I went with that. I eliminated the Harmony right off the bat as I decided you were right - why bury the best material. Especially after reading so much on this site about the positive aspects of latex!

I really felt a lot more confident having some expert input in the back of my mind, so thanks again to you and everyone on this site who takes the time to help strangers on the internet with their mattress purchases.

To others reading this thread - I can strongly recommend the Urban Mattress store to everyone in the DC, MD, and VA area. They are not very pushy (and know about this site!) and are knowledgeable. I never felt pressured to hurry up and make a decision even after going in there multiple times and testing mattresses out for long periods of time. Also, they are right across the street from a Savvy Rest store - I didn't like their mattresses myself but they might work for others of course.

Thanks,
Claire
Last edit: 13 May 2019 13:34 by clairechristian47. Reason: Said Saatva store but meant Savvy Rest

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13 May 2019 16:56 #402 by Sensei
Hey clairechirstina,

Very nice! Thank you for those nice comments about TMU. It really is a unique process, and getting some real info can be so helpful at retail. I a not surprised Urban Mattress knew about TMU, they are the type of retailer that can appreciate TMU consumers. I like the Gratitude model a lot, really nice quilt layers, and the talalay layers....it's really a high-quality mattress.

I am glad we could be helpful, and at least just give support with what you had learned, and what the retailers was saying. Glad to hear.

Thanks,
Sensei

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17 Jun 2019 19:10 #403 by Glasswelder
Hello, my partner has scoliosis. Is there a mattress type that is best for that?

Thanks

Nat

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18 Jun 2019 16:34 #404 by Phoenix
Hi Glasswelder,

Welcome to the mattress forum :).

I am sorry to hear your partner has scoliosis. We have had people write about this in the past. A forum search on scoliosis (you can just click the link) will bring up all the forum posts and topics that mention it (along with any linked posts that mention scoliosis in the title) but I would always keep in mind that there is no such thing as a mattress that is "best for scoliosis" or any other health or medical condition ... there is only a mattress that is "best for YOU" or your partner, in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP(Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences). Each person is unique and a mattress that is perfect for one person with scoliosis may be completely unsuitable for someone else with scoliosis to sleep on if they have a different body type, sleeping style, sensitivities, preferences, or differences in the severity of their scoliosis.

The steps involved in finding the best mattress for anyone with any specific health or medical condition would be the same as my reply in post #2 here and are also the same steps as choosing a mattress for someone that has no health or medical conditions because the two main functions of any mattress that would apply to anyone are to keep your spine and joints in neutral alignment (whatever that may be for you or your partner) and to provide good pressure relief in all your sleeping positions.

You can also research Trusted Members and talk to them about what they recommend, at least you will get professional service and knowledgable staff that wants to help.

Good luck to you and your partner.
Phoenix

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26 Jun 2019 21:26 #405 by HK45CTV7
Thank you Phoenix for taking your time to share your knowledge and experience! I am flying out of state just to test the mattresses at one of the trusted members, hopefully find the mattress that fulfills my needs, and then flying back home a couple of hours later. :)

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27 Jun 2019 11:04 #406 by Phoenix
Hi HK45CTV7,

Welcome to the mattress forum :).


Wow, that is quite impressive, flying to one of our Trusted Members to get your new mattress. Sounds really exciting.....good luck, and we really look forward to hearing what you decided!!!!

Phoenix

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27 Jun 2019 19:50 #407 by My Shoulders
Hello from a Newbie --

First, let me say a hearty 'thank you' for providing the information and sharing knowledge for this important investment in health and comfort. Thanks to everyone who shares, and special thanks to TMU; your passion is evident.

I'm in the 'middle' of two mattress purchases currently, and I've come across a concern that you folks have addressed -- a little -- but perhaps not seriously enough. I writing of foam mattresses that are subjected to 'long term compression.' As competition continues to grow (explode?), more of these beds-in-boxes are sitting in warehouse inventory -- as calendar pages continue to turn.

My most recent purchase grabbed my attention and concern because the mattress didn't 'pop' with energetic expansion when I removed the plastic covering. This was my fourth (4th) memory foam mattress purchase, so I knew what to expect, or so I thought. So, this one just unfurled slowly and reluctantly, if you will. It was to be a 12" combination latex + memory foam, lower-end product manufactured in China, but expanded to little more than 10 inches after a week. I checked the law tags and saw where the manufacture date was 8/2018 -- fully 10 months prior to delivery to me. I did some research, because I just didn't 'feel right' about the notion that the mattress likely spent almost a year in a compressed state between shipping and warehouse storage.

I'm still trying to get satisfaction from the online seller, who won't even acknowledge the specific topic of 'long term compression' (all correspondence has been in writing).

Anyway, with all the increased competition (and product) out there, I was thinking that greater care and attention to the manufacture date -- to ascertain compression duration -- would be an area of heightened primary concern to any consumer of these foam mattresses. In other words, this should be a 'bigger deal' to consumers today -- than perhaps it used to be. Thank you.

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28 Jun 2019 04:38 #408 by Sweet Dreams
Most manufacturers recommend unboxing a new mattress which has been compressed within a month or two after it’s delivered, and many use a "just in time" manufacturing process in which mattresses are only constructed, compressed and promptly shipped once an order is placed. You are correct that a mattress which has been compressed for an extended period of time is less likely to be able to return to its original full size expanded state, and this is also dependent upon the materials used in the mattress construction.

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29 Jun 2019 12:13 #409 by Sensei
Hey My Shoulders,

Welcome to the mattress forum :).

Thanks for the post, and for bringing up a very good point about long term compression of compressed mattresses. Do you mind letting the forum know the brand of the mattress you are talking about, Zinus, Linenspa, Malouf, Lucid?

Your fourth memory foam purchase? In the past year or more time? Do you have the specifications of the 4th mattress you are referencing?

As @sweetdreams pointed out (always spot on with information), with JIT, the better brands and most of the brands manufactured in the USA do not have this issue, unless of course, mistakes are made in managing first in first out inventory. This is definately a higher risk for imported mattresses, longer supply chains, etc.

Thanks for pointing this out, and let me know if you don't mind sharing the other details.

Sensei

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30 Jun 2019 23:54 #410 by My Shoulders
Greetings, Sensei {puts hands together; bows head} --

In response to your questions and requests, I suppose I was reticent to 'name names' because, as I mentioned, I'm still seeking satisfaction from the seller – who also is the importer and 'brand name' of the mattress. My attitude is that I shouldn't get too 'public' if I think I can have a fair and worthwhile engagement and remedy with the customer service department first. But, of course, that has nothing to do with my ability and willingness to help others – which apparently is what all you folks here at TMU are in the business of doing. So, in that spirit, I'll share all four of my memory foam bed-in-box purchases, hoping that it copy/pastes intact when it arrives at your forum. Here they are:

BRAND MANUFACTURER / COUNTRY MFR. DATE CONSUMER
(Sold By:) DELIVERY



Signature Sleep Dorel Home Products / China 12/21/2012 03/09/2013
(Amazon.com LLC)

Brentwood Home Springfield Mattress / CA - USA 02/19/2016 04/08/2016
(Amazon.com LLC)

PrimaSleep Grantec, Ltd. / China 03/26/2019 5/15/2019
(Amazon.com LLC)

Modway Sabrina China Factory #2015 / China 08 / 2018 06/07/2019
(LexMod)

Staying on the topic of long term compression, you can see that I did quite alright with the first three purchases – two of which came from factories in China. I've personally slept on those first two China-manufactured products and had/have no complaints whatsoever. I purchased the Brentwood Home mattress for my elderly mother, and it served her well for about two years. I don't think the mattress changed substantially, however I needed to devise a new strategy for Mom's sleeping because of her declining physicality. (A souped-up recliner/lift chair is doing the trick.)

So, the Modway Sabrina is my problem mattress, and I purchased it directly from their affiliated retail platform, LexMod. I wish I could report great customer service from LexMod/Modway; I cannot. I explained and showed them with photographs that the mattress seemed like it didn't even 'want to' expand with vigor, and that it barely attained a 10-inch depth, not 12 inches as advertised. I communicated plainly that my primary grievance was with the fact that they sent me a mattress that was clearly compressed for approximately 10 months. Nevertheless, I told them (in writing) that I would, in good faith, accept a 'fresh' Modway Sabrina as replacement – but not one that was compressed longer than 90 days. What happened next, you ask? They sent me an exact duplicate of the first mattress. They didn't call, write, discuss options – nothing. They simply shipped out another of the same. It arrived in an equally distressed and very dirty shipping box, with the same batch/lot 'Order Number' printed on the box as the first one. I point out the condition of the box because it struck me as noteworthy that both shipments were in boxes that appeared as though they had been around for quite a while and 'beaten up.' Dirty with old, dried-on warehouse dust and dirt literally on all six sides of the box. My other three mattress purchases – including one just three weeks prior – were not at all like that. In those instances, all six sides of the shipping boxes were clean, sturdy, and intact. To be clear: The condition of the shipping boxes is, in and of itself, not an issue. The box, obviously, is not the mattress inside. However, in my case, the condition of the Modway Sabrina boxes did foreshadow the real problem of receiving a product that had 'aged' for nearly a year in a warehouse, or perhaps multiple warehouses.

Fast-forward to my learning a little more about mattresses and long term compression, and I'm viewing the industry and all its options with much clearer eyes. Of course, I understood the difference between USA-based manufacturers and the potential pitfalls with imported goods. And I like the idea of supporting American businesses first – so long as I don't perceive them as 'greedy' in their pricing. But in fairness, I am frequently pleased with products manufactured overseas – including my two other mattresses that were made in China. The point of my original post, besides saying 'thank you,' was to suggest that because of what I see as exploding competition in the mattress-selling industry, there is likely to be many more instances of bed-in-box inventory aging in place, i.e., warehouses. So, for the consuming public, it's another factor for which to be vigilant – particularly when shopping for value-priced mattresses online.

I've never favored excessive regulations that might stymie innovation and competition, however, I would advocate for a bold new legal requirement that manufacturers and sellers of compressed mattresses must disclose the 'manufacture date' prominently on the outside of the consumer packaging and shipping box. That way, deliveries of 'stale' product could be properly and immediately rejected by consumers, with the onus of supply-chain efficiency appropriately highlighted for distributors and retailers. I think that would be a net advantage for all legitimate stakeholders in the chain of commerce.

I hope my little story helps someone along the road. I'm (mostly) enjoying my new 'lessons learning' in the mattress marketplace. Thanks again, TMU. Good rest, and Cheers!

– Alan

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