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Comparing Latex Mattresses 19 Nov 2012 13:28 #1

Hello,

I was hoping I could get some help comparing the Ultimate Dreams vs the Latex Supreme from the original mattress factory www.originalmattress.com/latex-foam/overview . My wife and I tried out the Latex supreme recently and absolutely loved everything but the price. Would the ultimate dreams be comparable to this? Would a 7 or 8 comfort level be similar to the feel of this mattress?

Thanks for all the help!

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Re: Comparing Latex Mattresses 19 Nov 2012 19:44 #2

Hi chaoticelf13,

The latex supreme is an all latex mattress (except for the 1" polyfoam quilting on each side) which uses an inch of quilting foam over 1.5" of softer latex (@ 19 ILD) over a "medium" 32 ILD talalay latex. In other words the comfort layers are about 2.5" and with the softer support layers it would be on the soft side overall. How it feels would also depend on whether you tested it on their "standard" active box spring (which would be a softer feel) or on a rigid foundation. It is also 2 sided which is a "durability" bonus.

The Ultimate dreams on the other hand has a 4.5" comfort layer (with your choice of firmness/softness of the 3" latex layer) and the support core is polyfoam which is both less flexible and firmer than the OMF latex support core. Thicker comfort layers tend to be softer (all else including ILD and support layers being equal) and the firmer and less elastic support layer will also "come through" and affect the feel of the comfort layers differently than a latex support core.

Because layer thickness and layer softness work together and all the layers of a mattress interact together and affect how the mattress feels ... these would be very much of an apples to oranges comparison. The thicker comfort layers in the UD would need firmer foam to approximate the thinner softer OMF comfort layers while the firmer support core of the Ultimate Dreams could also indicate that slightly softer would be necessary (the firmer support layers of the UD would come through more than the softer layers below the OMF). Overall I think the "choose firmer" influence because of the thicker comfort layer would outweigh the "choose softer" influence from the softer support core of the OMF.

So your preference of the OMF latex Supreme seems to indicate a general preference for a softer mattress and since Dreamfoam are the experts with their own mattresses ... I would ask them for their guidance about which comfort level may best approximate the specs of the OMF latex supreme (and which competing influence may outweigh the other). This would require some guesswork because it's not really possible to accurately "translate" one type of layering and material combination into another that is quite different for each person because there are so many variables involved and because each person may have very different perceptions about how one type of layering "matches" another which is different.

One final piece of guidance is that if in doubt between two different choices I would tend towards the firmer because it's much easier to fine tune a mattress that is a little too firm than it is to make a mattress that is too soft firmer.

Phoenix
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Re: Comparing Latex Mattresses 28 Nov 2012 13:05 #3

Hi chaoticelf13,

I was wondering if you bought you mattress yet, and which one you decided upon. If so, can you post your
impressions?

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Re: Comparing Latex Mattresses 28 Nov 2012 14:16 #4

My wife and I decided to wait until Black Friday to order the Ultimate Dreams in case there was a sudden price drop or something. We are expecting it near the end of next week. We do have the bed from IKEA with Slats ready to go when it gets here. I'll update this thread with initial thoughts when received. So far Chuck has been great in getting back to us with any questions so if you are on the fence about something in particular that only the manufacturer could answer I suggest you reach out to them directly via Amazon.

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Re: Comparing Latex Mattresses 28 Nov 2012 18:35 #5

Hi chaoticelf13,

Better manufacturers and retailers don't need or depend on mostly "fake" sales to provide good value to their customers customers (who often believe that the savings on a "special sale" are real) and will generally sell their mattresses for "good value" every day of the year. Sales that create a sense of "urgency" or a belief that a customer is getting some kind of "special value" or somehow did a great job at "negotiating" the price are all about marketing and perception and not so much about reality.

Better manufacturers and retailers will occasionally have a legitimate sale with smaller discounts but they will be for legitimate reasons and for smaller discounts that are not subject to negotiation (see post #6 here ).

For those stores who use the typical "sales tactics" as a marketing tool (and there is nothing "wrong" with this as long as consumers understand that they are mostly meaningless and see the "major mattress sales" for what they really are) ... sales are mostly rotating and ongoing, based on "fake" retail prices that nobody ever pays anyway (or at least should never pay), and only change in the details and the "name" of the sale.

This video and this video by one of the most knowledgeable people in the industry (and one of the members of this site) and who has a whole series of "beducational videos" that helps to educate consumers is also well worth watching.

Phoenix
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