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09 Mar 2018 08:41 - 09 Mar 2018 08:47 #11 by Peep
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Thank you for the useful information, Jeff.

I think I'll exchange my all latex for the quadraflex and add a topper. I'm hoping to achieve a customized feeling of comfort up top but more support than I'm currently getting below. This way I'll stay with latex because I really want to avoid memory foam.

I went back to Nest and tried the Alexander Hybrid and latex hybrid. I liked both but there's something I don't love about memory foam. I felt very warm on the Alexander Hybrid but that may have been nerves. This experience is causing me some anxiety. The latex felt good as well, and I'm still considering it, but it's more expensive than the quadraflex even after I factor in the cost of a quality topper. I would want to add a topper to that as well.

Would the nest latex hybrid and quadraflex coils be enough support for a 27 and 44 bmi? Leaning toward the flexus but haven't crossed off the nest.
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09 Mar 2018 09:16 #12 by MattressToGo
I don't have complete familiarity with all of the offerings that each of those manufacturers may have for someone of a higher BMI - that would be my main concern. The QuadraFlex is made in different firmnesses, but I don't know what Flexus might offer. I've seen versions of it that I wouldn't hesitate to recommend to larger individuals, but you'd want to contact them about that. Nest isn't specific on their web site which version of the Quantum Edge they offer, or if they have alternate versions, so you'd want to contact them about that as well. As you mentioned, it may be that extra cushioning material (you stated a topper) may be desired with a 44 BMI for either of these units, as 3" of latex may not be enough for your particular comfort preference in these configurations.

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09 Mar 2018 11:28 #13 by Peep
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Much appreciated again, Jeff. I'll be back at Flexus tomorrow.

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10 Mar 2018 09:02 #14 by MattressToGo
You're welcome, and good luck!

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02 May 2018 22:15 - 02 May 2018 23:48 #15 by Peep
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Hi there everyone. Back again.

I ended up exchanging my all latex for the quadraflex. www.flexuscomfort.com/quadra-flex.html

Now I wake up with less pain but I feel too much push back from the zoned coils below my hips. I somehow forgot this was a zoned mattress when I made my exchange. I'm curvy in the hip area so adjusting to this was difficult at first - it felt like I was lying on a mound. I would like to sink in a little more in the hip area. Would a 2"/3" topper help achieve this or should I look for something without the zoned coils? If so, any suggestions for a hybrid that I might be able to look at in person in the LA area (or online)?

The bed would be great otherwise, if not a little firm but a topper would easily remedy that. Needless to say, Flexus are probably tired of dealing with me and it will end up costing me more money to go back to the all latex. And as much as I want to give them my business, I don't want to end up with something I'm uncomfortable on because I feel bad for going elsewhere after all this.
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03 May 2018 23:26 #16 by Phoenix
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Hi Peep.

I somehow forgot this was a zoned mattress when I made my exchange. I'm curvy in the hip area so adjusting to this was difficult at first - it felt like I was lying on a mound. I would like to sink in a little more in the hip area. Would a 2"/3" topper help achieve this or should I look for something without the zoned coils?


I understand your need to sink in a little deeper because your body is much more curvy than flat and some parts of the body weigh more than others (such as the hips/pelvis) ... good support/alignment means that parts of your body need to be "allowed" to sink in more deeply and that other parts of your body need to be "stopped" from sinking in too deeply so that the end result is neutral alignment of the spine and joints. Reading a bit through your thread it seems that there is a very fine line for the right combination of support and pressure relief that you need and prefer.

A topper on added to the mattress would further “dampen” the effect of the zoning in the coil system. Just to make sure that you are not "jumping over" the combination that works best for you, if the topper is returnable then there would certainly be no harm in trying it because a topper is generally a pressure relief component and will have less effect on support/alignment but allow your hips to sink in a little further.
Although personal experience always "trumps" theory at a distance so your own experience will always be the best way to know how well any combination will work for you.

If so, any suggestions for a hybrid that I might be able to look at in person in the LA area (or online)?


Some or our trusted members that carry latex hybrid and ship nationally. (There may be shipping costs associated with purchasing innerspring mattresses)
Arizona Premium Mattress
Christeli
Midwest Mattress (CA, SanDiego)
Magic Sleeper
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My Green Mattress
Mattress To Go carries better quality value national brands.
Nest Bedding national
Quality Sleep Shop
Texas Mattress Makers ships from TX
Urban Natural
Bedmasters ships from FL
Beloit ships from IL

I'm looking forward to finding out which way you chose to go ... and of course any additional comments or questions you may have along the way that I or any of the Expert members of the site can help with.

Phoenix

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04 May 2018 11:29 #17 by Peep
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Thanks for the info, Phoenix.

I placed a 3" piece of soft (ILD unknown) dunlop on top that was loaned to me from a local shop for a couple days. Though I didn't feel the zoned coils anymore, I wasn't very comfortable on the dunlop or with being up that high. My mattress was at about 15" on top of 12" platform, so pretty tall.

Since returning the piece two days ago, I've really started to feel stiffness in my lower back going back to the mattress with no additional topping. So much so that I'm hardly sleeping. I placed an order for a Sleep on Latex 2" topper. Flexus has talalay toppers but they are not returnable.

I have just about a month before I would need to return it and at this point, I'm so uncomfortable that I am leaning toward taking it back. My mom has an old guest bed in storage that I can use if I need to take more time making a decision.

I'm starting to consider that latex may not be the bed material for me. I was drawn to the natural properties of latex though, so I'm hesitant to move on to other materials. I'm going to check out some local shops this weekend, including Blissful Sleep (not a member so any info you have is appreciated) & Nest.

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05 May 2018 23:19 #18 by Phoenix
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Hi Peep.

It would have been good to wait a little longer to try the new topper/mattress combination because it looked like the needle moved in the right direction, but I understand the need to move forward … IMO you did everything "right" in terms of the process you followed and "risk management" which is the best you can do with any online mattress purchase.

I'm going to check out some local shops this weekend, including Blissful Sleep (not a member so any info you have is appreciated) & Nest.


You are correct that the best way to know which type of materials or which type of mattresses you tend to prefer in general terms will be based on your own testing and personal experience because different people can have very different preferences. Both stores you are considering have a variety of mattresses that you can try, but keep in mind that there will still be some risks involved because once again ... until you actually sleep on a mattress ... you won't know for certain whether it's the best choice for you in terms of PPP. Assuming that the materials in a mattress you are considering are durable enough for your body type and meet the quality/durability guidelines here relative to your weight range (especially in the upper layer of the mattresses), here are a series of better questions to ask Generally speaking, one way to recognize the better retailers or manufacturers who are “mattress people” rather than “marketing people” is that once you start asking questions they will not only provide better answers but will also ask you better questions focused on finding out what you really need and prefer and offer their recommendations based on your answers rather than on “marketing stories”

Hope this helps ... I know the feeling around switching in midair... I'll be interested to learn of your eventual decisions.

Phoenix

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06 May 2018 16:55 #19 by Peep
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Thanks Phoenix.

I went to Blissful Sleep today and they showed me a Posh + Lavish. The one I liked was the Premiere model with the 1.5" of latex on top of pocket coils and a 2" topper. They couldn't really tell me much about the ILD's of the latex (found the info about all that here on TMU) but were more than happy to look up answers to my other questions. Also, they claim the topper that they sell with that mattress is blended with something else to make it feel springier. They also confirmed for me that they are using the Leggett and Platt Quantum Edge springs which are also zoned. The P&L mattresses are higher in price ($3k for this set up) and the store's return/exchange policy is less than others I've seen online (straight swap for another model in the store within 90 days for equal or lesser value, but they don't give you the difference back if you choose something cheaper. No restocking fee for a return, however).

Nest's latex hybrid uses dunlop latex in medium (28ILD?) so I would need to follow up with them if they're able to use talalay as a special order. Unlikely.

I also visited a Naturepedic and they have many hybrid options but since they are all organic, they only offer dunlop latex. However, the craftsmanship on these mattresses seems top notch. Also, as you can imagine, way over budget at $3k for their lowest end hybrid.

I notice a lot of mattresses are using this same L&P spring unit and read somewhere on here that Flexus uses the Texas pocket spring. I guess my main question is, what are the differences between these two spring units? The L&P didn't seem as firm in the lumbar region as the TX does. But I don't want to re-invent the wheel if they are essentially the same and wind up in the same position as I am in now.

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08 May 2018 23:35 #20 by Phoenix
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Hi Peep.

I notice a lot of mattresses are using this same L&P spring unit and read somewhere on here that Flexus uses the Texas pocket spring. I guess my main question is, what are the differences between these two spring units? The L&P didn't seem as firm in the lumbar region as the TX does. But I don't want to re-invent the wheel if they are essentially the same and wind up in the same position as I am in now.


I am glad you’ve had the chance to visit and do some more testing… you're right ...while Nest is always going out of their way to accommodate their customers I am not sure that they are set up to deal with custom orders, but it’s worth asking.. who knows...
Both L&P and Texas Pocket Spring are used in many high-end mattresses; I have not tested side by side or did an in-depth analysis of any of their fabric encased coil units. Both manufacturers have a wide range of different heights, styles gauge, zoning etc., in general, all components in a mattress work together and wotj each spring unit being an integral part of the mattress design it would be best to look at their properties in that context… keeping in mind that the properties and support of a unit are given by many interrelated factors such as wire gauge - typically between 12 and 19 (the lower the gauge number the thicker the wire and the more firmer coil), the number of turns /wraps of coils (the more turns the softer the coil), the diameter and the number of coils (the higher the diameter the softer the spring), spring height, coil connectors and other proprietary factors such as the preload, tensile strength Texas Pocket Springs has different models using zones or thicker steel along the edge and Leggett & Platt’s quantum springs along the edge are quite strong and very consistent.
…. Each of units is engineered with a variety of firmness and support characteristics controlled by those factors so the most reliable way to understand how suitable this would be for your particular needs is to speak with one manufacturer/retailer that has experience with multiple units from both manufacturers.

Hope this helps ... If you’re successful in finding something that you like, please let us know.

Phoenix

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