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11 Nov 2018 18:26 #1 by BackPain100

I need to buy a new mattress asap. I purchased a Dreamfoam memory foam mattress about 18 months ago and I can't take it anymore. If I don't wake up with back pain, it's my ribs that hurt, or my shoulder. I literally wake up because of the pain and can't sleep on it for more than 4-6 hours. I even have a mattress topper that they sent me and it doesn't help. I was hoping my body would adjust, but it hasn't. I thought it could have been the platform bed and not the mattress. I bought a steel bunkie board and put plywood on top, it didn't correct the issue. I guess it's not the bed. I have the mattress on the floor and I think it's a little better but I still don't get a good nights sleep.

I am a solo sleeper, 5'9" and 205 lbs. I am a side sleeper. I need a Queen mattress that doesn't cause me pain. I want something that is high quality and will last 5-10 years. My budget is under $3000 USD and that needs to include the foundation and delivery. Ideally I would like to spend around $1500 but willing to pay more for great sleep. I don't want memory foam anymore.

Can you help give me some mattress recommendations?

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13 Nov 2018 02:25 #2 by Luma Sleep

Hello BackPain100,
Thank you for reaching out to Luma Sleep in the ASK an Expert Forum! Before we can make some recommendations, there is additional information that will be needed:
1. Please share the specific model of the Dreamfoam Bedding that is causing you problems. There are at least 5 different models and the specific design will help in the assessment. If you do not know it, the law tag label on the mattress should list the model name.
2. You note that you have had this mattress for 18 months. When did you begin to experience back pain? You also note pain in your upper body. When did these ailments start? Do you have them in combination with you back pain, or are the pain points separate, i.e. sometimes lower back, sometimes ribs and shoulders, etc.?
3. Do you have a physical health condition that precedes the mattress such as a spinal condition or an injury?
4. Why have you decided you do not want memory foam any longer?
Once we know a bit more about the above, we may be able to assist you in your search for a new mattress.
Thanks again for reaching out!
Team Luma


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13 Nov 2018 08:37 - 13 Nov 2018 08:40 #3 by BackPain100

Luma Sleep wrote: Hello BackPain100,
Thank you for reaching out to Luma Sleep in the ASK an Expert Forum! Before we can make some recommendations, there is additional information that will be needed:
1. Please share the specific model of the Dreamfoam Bedding that is causing you problems. There are at least 5 different models and the specific design will help in the assessment. If you do not know it, the law tag label on the mattress should list the model name.


-DreamFoam Ultimate Dreams Aria 12" Gel Memory Foam Mattress
-2" gel memory foam mattress topper (Approximately 3 months after purchasing the mattress)

Luma Sleep wrote: 2. You note that you have had this mattress for 18 months. When did you begin to experience back pain? You also note pain in your upper body. When did these ailments start? Do you have them in combination with you back pain, or are the pain points separate, i.e. sometimes lower back, sometimes ribs and shoulders, etc.?


*The pain points are separate.

-I've had lower back pain for years so I cannot blame the mattress for that. Some days I wake up and it's worse than others.

-The shoulder pain started when I got the mattress approximately 18 months ago. My shoulder just felt jammed into the mattress as I slept on my side. I told them my issue and I wanted to return the mattress. They suggested a 2" gel memory foam topper in lieu of returning the mattress and I agreed.

-Upper back pain has been for a long time, I can't remember when it started though. When I sleep on my side, my shoulder isn't tucked in because the mattress is too hard. I think this is the cause of my upper back pain.

-Rib pain is recent (~3 months). I just started waking up with aching rib pain on whatever side I was sleeping on.

Luma Sleep wrote: 3. Do you have a physical health condition that precedes the mattress such as a spinal condition or an injury?


-Chronic lower back pain.

*No injuries or change in lifestyle

Luma Sleep wrote: 4. Why have you decided you do not want memory foam any longer?

Just this experience really. And I was told the foam core does not give me the support I need.

Luma Sleep wrote: Once we know a bit more about the above, we may be able to assist you in your search for a new mattress.
Thanks again for reaching out!
Team Luma


Thank you!

Last Edit: 13 Nov 2018 08:40 by BackPain100.

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13 Nov 2018 11:45 #4 by Nathan Elliott

I think I should throw out there that anytime a brand, whether it's a retailer or manufacturer, offers simply to place a topper on top of their existing mattress, it's evidence that they're simply trying to control the return, NOT trying to offer a benefit.

I have a relationship with a 1633 flammability consultant who works with some of the big bed-in-a-box brands, who says that if his clients didn't offer the topper after the sale, their return rates would be over 30%.

I always say that putting a topper on a mattress is like putting a bandage over a wound. It may stop the bleeding, but it won't heal anything. The healing comes from underneath the band aid.

In this case, I would imagine your issues with the mattress aren't because of the memory foam, it's because of whatever foam core they used. Foam cores, if used properly, can be very supportive and durable. And if you're a side sleeper, memory foam is perfect because of the pressure relief it can provide in the shoulder area. But, if the core isn't also used specifically to contribute to the needs of your body, the memory foam benefits are removed, which at least Dreamfoam admitted to.

I'd recommend not giving up on Memory Foam, but making sure that the rest of the mattress is constructed for side sleepers with your physical needs.


Nathan Elliott ~ Chief Marketing Officer (Comfort Option)

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13 Nov 2018 14:19 - 13 Nov 2018 14:23 #5 by BackPain100

Nathan Elliott wrote: I always say that putting a topper on a mattress is like putting a bandage over a wound. It may stop the bleeding, but it won't heal anything. The healing comes from underneath the band aid.

In this case, I would imagine your issues with the mattress aren't because of the memory foam, it's because of whatever foam core they used. Foam cores, if used properly, can be very supportive and durable. And if you're a side sleeper, memory foam is perfect because of the pressure relief it can provide in the shoulder area. But, if the core isn't also used specifically to contribute to the needs of your body, the memory foam benefits are removed, which at least Dreamfoam admitted to.


Unfortunately, I had to learn the hard way with regards to the mattress topper. I think you're right; the foam core is probably the issue.

I should have clarified in my above post--I was told by another company that the foam core probably wasn't offering the support I needed. Dreamfoam did not admit anything. Thank you for your insight.

Last Edit: 13 Nov 2018 14:23 by BackPain100.

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21 Nov 2018 09:50 #6 by BackPain100

Hi Luma Sleep, hoping you can further help with bed recommendations. I have been sleeping on an older mattress for the past 3 days and my rib pain and upper back pain have gone away. My lower back pain seems to be better. I don’t own this mattress, I’ve been sleeping on my relatives bed while she is out of town. The mattress tag appears to be missing and all I know is that it’s a Serta.

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22 Nov 2018 04:16 #7 by Luma Sleep

Hi BackPain100,

Good to read you have found a mattress that removes your pain points! The challenge now seems to be identifying it. Without information from the product/law tag labels, we are not in a position to be much help. It's rare that they are removed. They will be at middle of the mattress, at the head or foot, depending on how the mattress is oriented. Perhaps your relative will know the brand, or where she purchased it. The retailer may have a record of the sale if she know where she purchased it and it is less than 3 years old.


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28 Nov 2018 10:07 #8 by BackPain100

Hi again,

Are there any mattresses that I could try out in stores that are comparable to Luma mattresses?

What Luma mattresses would you recommend for me?

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28 Nov 2018 15:42 #9 by Luma Sleep

Hello BackPain,
Thank you for considering Luma Sleep! To help you find comparable mattresses locally, we will need to know the city/state where you reside. To recommend a Luma Mattress system for you, please go to our website, lumasleep.com/collections/luma-mattresses and look over the 3 mattress systems we sell. Your earlier information makes us think one of our 2-layer Slumber Systems will be a good fit, but you are a better judge of that than we are. We will glady Chat online or speak with you by phone if you have any questions.

Sweet dreams,

Team Luma


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01 Dec 2018 14:40 #10 by BackPain100

I’m in Tampa Florida.

I tried out a couple mattresses that seemed to suit me well as far as joint relief and alignment.

Can you tell me if these are mattresses made from quality materials?

The Beautyrest Silver Island West Luxury Firm is $1399 with the foundation.

The Sealy Performance Kelburn II is $1550 with the foundation.

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