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02 Dec 2018 05:18 #11 by Luma Sleep
Hello BackPain100,
Welcome back! The 2 mattresses you are considering are entry level models of hybrid mattresses from Sealy and Beautyrest (Simmons).
The Beautyrest Silver Island uses 3" of unspecified gel memory foams over a 1000 coil pocketed coil support system in a foam encasement. Without transparency into the specifications, it is impossible to determine the quality of the materials. We could not readily find customer reviews that were specific to this model.
The Sealy Performance Hybrid Kellburn II is a very similar mattress with gel memory foam on the top layers, but it does have an additional inch of foam designed to be transition layer from the memory foams to the coil system. The coil system is not foam encased but uses a coil design with more narrow, firmer coils on the perimeter for edge support. Again, as typical with all major brands, there is no transparency to the component specifications to allow for an assessment of their quality/durability.
If you find both mattresses to be comparable in meeting your "test-rest" at the retail store, price may become the determining factor. As you will likely be receiving an extended in-home trial period, please make sure you know if there are any costs or restrictions that will impact your ability to return for a refund. Lastly, retain the sales receipt (some folks put it between the mattress and foundation), so if you find excess softening or body impressions related to the mattress, you will have it so that the retailer will not disqualify your warranty claim.
As you are purchasing the mattress system from a retailer, you should leverage their desires to close the sale by negotiating hard for as much of a discount as you can get.

Hope this helps!

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04 Dec 2018 10:03 #12 by ManuelCalavera
there might be something wrong with my browser because I can't post my own topic but does anyone have any opinions about these mattresses:

Luxury home series

1st Layer: 2” Wool and Cotton filled quilted cover (joma wool)
2nd Layer: 2.5” 4lb Convoluted Memory Foam
3rd Layer: 2.5” 3lb Transition foam
4th Layer: 7” 2.0lb High Density support foam

Alexander signature

.5" Quilted Cover Cool Stretch Fabric
2.5" 4 lb. Gel Foam Memory Foam
1.5" 4 lb. Visco Memory Foam
2" 1.8 lb. SmartFlow Foam
7" 1.8 lb. Solid Edge Support Base Foam

Natural latex

3" Soft 14ILD Talalay latex topper
3" Medium 14ILD Dunlop Latex or Medium 18ILD GOLS Dunlop Latex
6" Firm 36ILD Dunlop Latex or Firm 32ILD GOLS Dunlop Latex

All from nest bedding. The first one is my favorite so I'd want to get that but my concern is with the durability of the mattress, is this one that will last a long time?

Thanks

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05 Dec 2018 06:18 #13 by Luma Sleep
Hello Manuel,
Welcome to The Mattress Underground! All 3 models you are considering are from Nest Bedding. As a Trusted Member of this site, reaching out directly to Nest Bedding may prove to be the most informative next step you can take. You may have already visited one of their stores.
The durability of each mattress is implied in the warranty. www.nestbedding.com/pages/nest-warranty . As long as you keep your sales receipt, you should be able to address any concerns directly with Nest in the future.
The natural latex model will be the most durable as it is made of 100% latex, well known to be one of the most durable materials in the mattress industry. We could not find the Luxury Home series on the Nest Website, so we are going off of the specs you have listed. It has 2" of wool quilted in the cover; this material may compress a bit over time. It uses 2.5" of convoluted memory foam. Luma Sleep is not a big fan of convoluted foam but that does not matter much in this case, and the wool layer and memory foam will be covered under the body impression specs in the warranty. The progression from 4# to 3# to a 2# base foam is a solid design. The Alexander signature looks to also be a strong design with 4" of memory foam above a transition layer and 1.8# base foam.
Purchasing from a TMU trusted member, with a reasonable warranty, you should be in good hands.

Hope this help!
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09 Dec 2018 14:47 #14 by ManuelCalavera
Hello,

Thanks a lot for the information. I think I'll get the luxury home set as after going back to the store that ended up still being the most comfortable.

When I was there I mentioned that I have an ikea bed frame with the LURÖY curved slats that are common with their beds and I was told it would void the warranty if I used the mattress with those slats. I was told I could get a bunkie/bunky board to sit on top of the slats (?) and that would be fine. I'm generally satisfied with my bed frame so I don't want to replace it right now so do you have any recommendations for bunky boards that aren't too expensive?

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10 Dec 2018 01:59 #15 by Luma Sleep
Hello Manuel,
We do not fully understand the recommendation of the retailer for using a bunkie board on top of your curved slatted wood foundation. The IKEA slatted bed base you mention should work well with any mattress, provided it is properly supported along the perimeter and especially in the center with a solid support beam that is braced with legs. However, if you feel the recommendation is warranted (and not an up-sale tactic by the retailer), the least expensive way to go would be to use a 1/2" plywood sheet, as it is intended to provide a solid, stable platform.

Hope this helps!

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29 Jan 2019 15:44 - 29 Jan 2019 15:52 #16 by BackPain100
I went to Pittsburgh Mattress Factory. They assemble mattresses and box springs and they have a small show room. The mattresses are double sided innerspring and use Leggett Solid Steel Bonnel Coils made in the USA. The foam is 3 lb per cubic foot. She said something like the pressure is 36 lbs on the medium firm and 40 lbs on the firm.

She kept stressing the importance of the real box spring they make and use. She said the box springs you get at most retail stores are basically junk (not her words but how I interpretted it).

The cost is $2599 with the box spring and delivered. She said with flipping the mattress it can last up to 20 years.

Does this sound like a quality mattress? Is price negotiable at these types of places?

Thanks.
Last edit: 29 Jan 2019 15:52 by BackPain100.

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30 Jan 2019 06:37 #17 by Luma Sleep
Hello BackPain100,
Thanks for reaching out to Luma Sleep! $2599 is a lot of money to spend on a mattress set, so you are wise to seek additional input. Your limited description of the mattress makes it impossible for us to comment on whether it's an appropriate value for the high cost. It appears that you are shopping at the Pittsburgh Mattress Factory in Ellenton, FL. Is this correct? The company's focus is on custom made mattresses. If they are making you a custom mattress, the key to assessing quality and value will be on the details of the components. We would need to know these details in order to best assist you.
The general information shared about the box spring is accurate. Other than certain ultra-luxury mattress sets, most "box springs" sold today are not box springs, but are metal wire grids, more commonly referred to as foundations. A real box spring will extend the life of your mattress, which is one of the major reasons the major mattress manufacturers and most others stopped making them. The other is the cost, as a box spring is much more expensive to make than a foundation.
Once you provide the mattress content specification details, we can be of more assistance.

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