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Holy Grail - please do help 17 Jul 2020 13:22 #1

I had a hard time framing my question - I would like to find something like below can you assist me?
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I am generally healthy and fit but I have a terrible spine and nerve problems. I have stenosis, sciatica, scoliosis and a few slipped discs - no kidding. I was supposed to get neck and lower back surgery, and I need wrist surgery as well, but covid hit and now it will be some time before I can get my surgeries, which frankly - I would rather avoid if at all possible. I am active when I can be. I am small boned and my husband is 200 pounds so anything that sags makes me roll right into him, but he likes things soft and warm, I like a cooler environment with a firm base and soft top. I desperately need a better mattress. Desperately. I have shopped extensively.

I have very much liked the Halcyon Naturepedic line, the Arcadiia and Elysium in particular, and I also rather liked the Aireloom Karpen mattress. Both of these feel good but are wildly expensive. I love that naturepedic is organic. I am extremely allergic to synthetic latex but was assured the talalay is okay for latex sensitivities, although I have never tried it (yet).

I know Berkeley ergonomics is less expensive and Churchill and Smith are local and easy to work with and nice but what I have tried of theirs in showrooms do not meet the comfort of the two I initially listed. I have not liked much else.

Now we are shelter in place due to a medical issue in the family but I NEED a new mattress (King) without the crazy price tags of the Halcyon, which is my favorite.

I wake up immobilized in back spasms a couple times a month, we switched mattresses to an old beautyrest we had in the garage and it is a little better but that mattress is 20 years old and I really desperately need a new one that is wonderful but not so much money! I would also like to get my mother a new mattress (full) and, given what I am saying about the halcyon, I wonder what you might suggest I look at? I am overwhelmed by all of the information. I have looked at your 5 questions but any specific help or brand that may meet the comfort of that mattress I would be so grateful for! we are in California.

the specs are :

With customizable comfort levels and a fine organic wool blend layer, the Arcadia provides everything you need for your best night’s sleep.

OVERVIEW

13" Profile

6" Customizable organic latex

6" Organic wrapped coils




Many, many thanks!
Sonja

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Holy Grail - please do help 18 Jul 2020 10:42 #2

Hi sonjabh!

Welcome to our Mattress Forum! :)

We have noticed that you have published identical posts in Luma Sleep's expert forum. In order to preserve forum integrity and organization, we have removed the other exact duplicate of your post.

I am not sure if Luma is responding to questions over the weekend, but they are extremely responsive and they will get back to you promptly.

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Holy Grail - please do help 20 Jul 2020 18:20 #3

Hi again Sonjabh!

I am generally healthy and fit but I have a terrible spine and nerve problems. I have stenosis, sciatica, scoliosis and a few slipped discs - no kidding. I was supposed to get neck and lower back surgery, and I need wrist surgery as well, but covid hit and now it will be some time before I can get my surgeries, which frankly - I would rather avoid if at all possible. I am active when I can be. I am small boned and my husband is 200 pounds so anything that sags makes me roll right into him, but he likes things soft and warm, I like a cooler environment with a firm base and soft top. I desperately need a better mattress. Desperately. I have shopped extensively.


Sorry to hear of your spine and nerve issues and I hope that the surgery goes well when you manage to have it rescheduled. I certainly understand the urgency to find a new mattress. Not to throw you off but would keep in mind also that after the surgery your needs may slightly change at least in the recovery period.

It can often be challenging to find the right balance of comfort/support needs for sleeping partners that have a higher weight differential and different personal preferences. This is better achieved with a split mattress. While you do not mention your weight, I am guessing from your description that there is a bit of difference between your and your husband’s. In general, people with a higher BMI need firmer, thicker comfort layers, and firmer support layers than those who are lighter. Even though you haven’t asked specifically about split mattresses, you may find our article [url=]"Designing the Right Mattress for Us" interesting taking about zoned designs and benefits of split mattresses for personalized comfort/ support of a dual sleeping environment.

I have very much liked the Halcyon Naturepedic line, the Arcadiia and Elysium in particular, and I also rather liked the Aireloom Karpen mattress. Both of these feel good but are wildly expensive. I love that naturepedic is organic. I am extremely allergic to synthetic latex but was assured the talalay is okay for latex sensitivities, although I have never tried it (yet).


There are hundreds of pages of information online about latex allergies and most of the concerns is with medical equipment ... and particularly latex gloves ... and there is not a great deal of concern with latex foam (which is cured and washed) at least for people who don't have a type I latex sensitivity (in which case all-natural latex should be avoided). Post #16 in this thread talks all about latex allergies as it pertains to mattresses , which you may find informative. That said, you hopefully consulted with a physician and know your allergy type. I would certainly want to test this prior to making a purchasing decision.

I know Berkeley ergonomics is less expensive and Churchill and Smith are local and easy to work with and nice but what I have tried of theirs in showrooms do not meet the comfort of the two I initially listed.

Naturepedic is one of the two companies that have their mattresses certified organic as a complete mattress (and doesn't just contain organic materials and components) which is why the pricing is so steep.
(13") Arcadia
6" Customizable organic latex
6" Organic wrapped coils
(16”) Elysium
3" Customizable organic latex
15" Double-layer organic wrapped coils

It looks like you prefer a hybrid latex feel. If you disliked the feel of the mattresses you tried in the showrooms you mentioned, then you’re definitely right to keep looking!

I really desperately need a new one that is wonderful but not so much money! I would also like to get my mother a new mattress (full) and, given what I am saying about the halcyon, I wonder what you might suggest I look at?

I am sorry to hear about your back spasms. Unfortunately, I can't make any specific mattress recommendations or speak to how any mattress will "feel" for someone else because this is too subjective and relative to different body types, sleeping positions, and individual preferences, sensitivities, and circumstances.

That said based on what you’ve described (assuming that you have no type I latex allergy) a latex hybrid could your ideal mattress. Some local options in California that are Mattress Underground trusted members and I would recommend you look at:
Flexus Comfort (Covina, offers a latex hybrid)
Nest Bedding (San Francisco – carries a certified organic latex hybrid)
Mattress Makers (San Diego – offers a latex hybrid)
Flobeds (Fort Bragg – 100% customizable mattresses, natural Talalay latex, a good option for split mattresses)
You may also be interested in browsing our other Trusted Members and call them to see if they may be able to match the feel of the two mattresses you like. Many have hybrid options that may interest you that are transparent and will guide you the best outcome.

These companies have similar options at a much more affordable price point than the Naturepedic lineup you’ve tested.

I know it is a lot to take in. but it is important to do some research and think things through to ensure you make the best possible mattress choice. Look at all of the variables in your personal value equation and what is important to you. Overall, there is no formula that can predict with any certainty what type of layering you may do best with that can possibly be more accurate than your own personal experience.
Looking forward to any shipping updates you may have!

Phoenix
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Holy Grail - please do help 25 Jul 2020 13:20 #4

Dear Phoenix,

You are an angel, sorry for my delay, I just logged in and saw your lengthy and thoughtful reply which is appreciated and I am looking at each component carefully.
Thank you so much for this valuable info.

In terms of loactions, we are north of LA fairly close to Ventura and I do not see any members near here, but it may be worth shipping. Are you aware of any covid concerns in terms of buying now? If you get a chance, love to know. Thanks again, I appreciate your detailed thoughts.

Kindly,
Sonja

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