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11 Jan 2019 02:50 #11 by MFC
Hi 560andrising,

I'm no expert on the Tempur-pedic mattresses, so I cannot give you proper advice on which one to choose. However I did find this interesting article that compares both mattresses and may help you make the right choice.

Hope this helps

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11 Jan 2019 05:12 - 11 Jan 2019 05:12 #12 by 560andrising

560andrising wrote: I then thought back to our testing from earlier in the day and am not considering going with a softer product, along the lines of the Cloud Supreme.


Just to clarify, this should have read:

"I then thought back to our testing from earlier in the day and am now considering going with a softer product, along the lines of the Cloud Supreme."

Crazy how one letter can change the meaning of or add confusion to an entire sentence, haha!
Last edit: 11 Jan 2019 05:12 by 560andrising. Reason: formatting for clarity

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11 Jan 2019 05:16 #13 by 560andrising
Hey MFC! I'm going to read the article right now. Thank you!

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11 Jan 2019 06:00 - 11 Jan 2019 06:09 #14 by 560andrising
I read the article and it is discussing the Contour Supreme and the Rhapsody Luxe. The Contour Supreme is the firmest Tempur-Pedic mattress. I'm looking at the Cloud Supreme and the Rhapsody Luxe. They don't seem to have anything that sits between those two the I a aware of. They do have a new Adapt model that they rate as having a medium firmness, while the Cloud Supreme is medium-soft and Rhapsody Luxe is medium-firm. We're not paying new prices for Temur-Pedic, which keeps the Adapt models out of the running.

I'm trying to wrap my head around the adaptiveness of the supposed Rhapsody Luxe and how that compares and contrasts with the immediate comfort of the Cloud Supreme. I don't want us to go for comfort and realize two years down the line that the Cloud Supreme felt great but wasn't the right move. This could be due to our weight and the medium density top layer, and the possibility of premature breakdown or sinking in too much and losing support in exchange for comfort. Of course, I'm also concerned about getting the Rhapsody Luxe and dealing with a prolonged adjustment period or just realized down the line that it'll always feel a bit firm, making it hard to fall asleep, even if the mattress will adapt to our shapes and offer superior support compared to the Cloud Supreme. These are all just thoughts, but that's where I'm at.

Edit Add: Thinking of he info on this site, it might be wise to get the Rhapsody Luxe on discount, try it out for what would be a trial period, and then consider adding a topper if it remains too firm. At least, then, we would have a durable mattress with quality layers and no weak links that we can try and "season to taste," if you will.

As always, feel free to add thoughts, any and everyone!
Last edit: 11 Jan 2019 06:09 by 560andrising. Reason: Added a side note and corrected a typo

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11 Jan 2019 11:06 #15 by Sweet Dreams
Based on my experience I would have to agree with your edited addition that you'd be better off going on the firmer side of your choices, since it's much more feasible to soften up a firm mattress which offers you sufficient support with a topper than to try to firm up a softer mattress. I've often been attracted to the initial comfort of more plush mattresses, only to then end up with bad lower back pain due to their lack of adequate support. There's really no way I've found to firm up such a mattress, so I've had to replace the softer mattresses with a firmer choice.

Like you stated you can experiment with toppers on a firm mattress if you find it necessary until you find the one that suits you best. Usually such a topper would be two to three inches in thickness and would not fit into the existing mattress cover even if it is removable. You would typically place the topper (either bare or in a topper cover) on top of your mattress under a mattress protector and your fitted sheet. I use a full zippered mattress encasement, but depending upon its makeup they can further affect the overall feel of the mattress/topper combination.

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11 Jan 2019 12:19 #16 by 560andrising
Hey Sweet Dreams! Your feedback is much appreciated! I just came back from a lengthy trial of the Rhapsody Luxe and slept like a baby, lol. I woke up drooling and the whole nice. The sales rep literally told me that I'd been asleep for an hour-and-a-half and had to go, hahaha! I have a relationship with the manager at that store and immediately contacted him to express my apologies for confusing his sales guy. He laughed and said no worries and that I did precisely what everyone should do.

While on the Rhapsody, I found the back and stomach positions to be fantastic. Laying on my side took a while to get comfortable and I honestly never write did feel completely comfy, but it was good enough to conclude that I could buy that mattress and make adjustments if needed.

I then went to a different branch of the same store and tried the Cloud Supreme Breeze, which I believe is a fit firmer than the standard Cloud Supreme, but served as a decent model to do a quick A-B comparison. It felt great, of course. The comfort of that model is unsurpassed thus far, but I am more concerned with the long-term outcome of the mattress we choose. It's a tough decision. I feel like the Cloud would give instant gratification, while the Rhapsody might lead to some rough nights as we adjust. I am also concerned about my wife, who preferred the Cloud and while heavy for a woman, is under 200 pounds. If I were under 200 pounds, I would want the Cloud Supreme myself.

I feel better about having some solid options, though. I was starting to frustrated with the online mattress search. Companies are changing their specs quite a bit and without notice. It's a bit frightening, but it is what it is.

Side note: I have to admit that Tempur-Pedic's Luxe Adapt felt really great. I would even venture to say that it felt better than the Rhapsody Luxe, but it would've been better if 'd tried it while in the store where the Rhapsody Luxe was. I tried it before leaving the second store just for kicks and kept going back to it. I really liked it, but am aware that the specs are not as good as previous models and of course, the cost would be MSRP, which is not gonna happen, haha.

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13 Mar 2019 11:38 #17 by Dormir7
560andrising,

Did you end up making a decision on a mattress? I know you were looking for an all-memory foam mattress and wondered how things ended up. I keep coming back to all-foam in my mind as a cheap all-foam mattress supported my back for a long time. Currently I'm on a Brooklyn Bedding Medium Aurora (hybrid) mattress, which hasn't entirely alleviated my back problems. Although I'm better aligned, I now have Sciatica-like symptoms. Essentially the medium is too soft, and the firm is too firm; the difference in ILD between the two is too dramatic.

Thanks for any updates,
Dormir7

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13 Mar 2019 12:20 #18 by Dormir7
MFC,

At this point I have tried a number of mattresses including Sleep on Latex (SOL), SleepEZ and Brooklyn Bedding (the hybrid Aurora mattress).

What I have learned is that I believe my lower back needs a comfort layer of memory foam that fills in the gaps and provides good secondary support. The closest I have gotten to this with the above mattresses was a SOL medium mattress with a soft topper. However, only with the cover on the topper did I get the greatest buoyancy I need for my lower back. The BB medium Aurora's TitanFlex and the composition of the layers is such that I feel nearly aligned and nearly there but I now have Sciatica-like symptoms because the mattress is too soft. The firm Aurora was way too firm. The difference between the 2 ILDs was too significant.

When I think back to the mattress that worked for a number of years it was this cheap medium Comfort Dreams memory foam mattress. ( www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Comfort-Dr...5FNTRFGE&searchidx=1 )

However, the comfort layers became too soft with time and I got misaligned. Can you tell me a quality memory foam mattress that will provide pressure point relief as a side sleeper but enough secondary support for one who has a slipped disk?

Thanks,
Dormir7

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13 Mar 2019 15:32 #19 by MFC
Hi Dormir7,

Can you tell me a quality memory foam mattress that will provide pressure point relief as a side sleeper but enough secondary support for one who has a slipped disk?


We suggest one that is made with 5lb density memory foam. It offers superior support, pressure relief and durability. It's a good idea to get one that is certiPUR-US certified, for content, emissions, and durability, and has been analyzed by independent, accredited testing laboratories.

you will find more info on Memory Foam here and on polyurethane foam mattress support cores here

Good luck with your purchase, and let us know on what you decided to buy.

All the best

Mario

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13 Mar 2019 16:14 #20 by Dormir7
MFC does not ship to the USA, correct? If not, do you have a sister company that does?

Thanks.

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