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14 Aug 2019 10:55 #11 by Stefan416
Hi,

I seem to be in the same situation as you regarding possibly switching up a layer in the Presto. How did the mattress turn out for you in the standard config? I've sent a few emails to Mario at MFC and hes been a big help but am still on the fence about layering option.

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14 Aug 2019 13:56 - 14 Aug 2019 13:56 #12 by MFC
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Hi Stefan416,

Thanks for your kind words. We are here to help. :-)
I am not sure if scallywag1945 is still monitoring this thread but I'd also be interested to know if they they are still sleeping well on the last configuration we suggested.

Let's hope she gets the notification of this new post and takes the time to let us know.

All the best

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16 Aug 2019 13:25 #13 by scallywag1945
Overall I'd say I'm pretty happy with the mattress. I really liked the feel of it when it first arrived in the standard format of soft-soft-medium-firm. After a month or so it softened up significantly and didn't have the springy supportive feel that it had initially and after several months there were noticeable indentations on each side where my wife and I end up most of the time (we are both tall and light people.) This is with rotating the bed regularly. We've had the mattress for about 7 months or so now and I just reconfigured the layers slightly to get a bit more support so now it is soft-medium-soft-firm. Hopefully it doesn't continue to soften. I will also say this type of material is very awkward to move around. Do not remove it from the box until it's close to where the bed will end up. It is also a pain to remove and shuffle the mattress layers but not impossible. I also find that the edges of the layers don't align perfectly on the edges of the mattress so it looks a bit wanky. The softer layers seem to overhang slightly on all sides. I think if you knew what feel you were going to get once broken in it would be better to get a mattress that is glued together.

Hope this helps!

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17 Aug 2019 04:52 - 17 Aug 2019 04:59 #14 by MFC
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HI scallywag1945,

Overall I'd say I'm pretty happy with the mattress.

Thank you so much for taking the time to comment on your Presto Organic Latex Mattress and we're pleased that you're happy with your mattress

I really liked the feel of it when it first arrived in the standard format of soft-soft-medium-firm. After a month or so it softened up significantly and didn't have the springy supportive feel that it had initially and after several months there were noticeable indentations on each side where my wife and I end up most of the time (we are both tall and light people.) This is with rotating the bed regularly. We've had the mattress for about 7 months or so now and I just reconfigured the layers slightly to get a bit more support so now it is soft-medium-soft-firm. Hopefully it doesn't continue to soften


The real comfort and support issues often appear after the initial 90 day trial period when the break in period is over, as the top layers start to deteriorate. The softening and minor indentation of top layers for latex / foam mattresses is considered as normal in the industry. The good news is that when the 3-6 month break-in period is over, the mattress will not soften up much anymore. Since you bought a Presto customizable mattress, you can now simply rearrange a few layers and firm it up as you want, as with a conventional latex mattress (glued layers) you'd have to live with a softer mattress.

I will also say this type of material is very awkward to move around. Do not remove it from the box until it's close to where the bed will end up.

Thank you for pointing this out! You're right, organic dunlop latex is very heavy and has no body. We now offer to ship the mattress in individual layers to facilitate shipping and handling inside the home.

It is also a pain to remove and shuffle the mattress layers but not impossible.

We agree that it can be a small challenge at first especially in a King size mattress. However we believe that it's more convenient to shuffle a couple of layers to firm up the mattress, rather than having to buy a new mattress that has become too soft for use after the break-in period.

I also find that the edges of the layers don't align perfectly on the edges of the mattress so it looks a bit wanky. The softer layers seem to overhang slightly on all sides.

Organic dunlop latex is different to all other mattress materials. Each layer is hand made in small family farms to Asian standards. Therefor the layers are not perfect in size, texture and colour, unlike polyurethane foam which is made with chemical formulas that ensure each one is exactly like the next. In my experience once the layers are placed inside the tight fitting cover they do not shift, and they give the edges of the mattress a rounded look, compared to the square / angled look of conventional mattresses.

I think if you knew what feel you were going to get once broken in it would be better to get a mattress that is glued together.

We agree, but unfortunately there's no way to know, as there are too many variables to consider...

Thank's again for taking some time out to share your experience with your Presto Customizable Organic Dunlop Latex Mattress

All the best

Mario
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19 Aug 2019 12:47 #15 by Stefan416

scallywag1945 wrote: Overall I'd say I'm pretty happy with the mattress. I really liked the feel of it when it first arrived in the standard format of soft-soft-medium-firm. After a month or so it softened up significantly and didn't have the springy supportive feel that it had initially and after several months there were noticeable indentations on each side where my wife and I end up most of the time (we are both tall and light people.) This is with rotating the bed regularly. We've had the mattress for about 7 months or so now and I just reconfigured the layers slightly to get a bit more support so now it is soft-medium-soft-firm.

Hope this helps!


So glad you saw my post! Very interesting. I was considering not having the two soft layers and switching one to something else. Mario at MFC had suggested a firm in its place. So S/M/F/F/F which sounds like a good option although I dont know if I'd ever then switch the soft and medium ever. Alot of mattress use the 6 inch core which would be the same type of thing.

Regarding the impressions, that does seem kind of premature no? Their warranty states a minimum of 1.5 inches for warranties which seems like alot. I know Tempurpedic is 0.75 but that's not the same stuff at all.

Regarding the differing dimensions, I understand that latex is a little weird to deal with but sloppy cuts are a different matter. I stopped in to a local store and tried some GreenSleep models and they also have a layered system that isnt glued. They are actually individually put into cotton socks as well which is a nice addition.

How do you sleep? I'm personally 5ft-10 160lbs, wider shouldered, small waist. Tend to sleep on my side or stomach. I think I like more of a medium firmness mattress. Definitely not into the sloppy super sunk in feeling all too much. I like the Tempurpedic teal firmness which is their middle firmness I beleive.

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19 Aug 2019 13:03 #16 by MFC
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Hi Stephan416,

I was considering not having the two soft layers and switching one to something else. Mario at MFC had suggested a firm in its place. So S/M/F/F/F which sounds like a good option


Since organic dunlop latex does soften up quite a bit in the first 3 months, you may want to switch one of the 20ILD soft layers to a 30ILD medium layer if you prefer a firmer mattress.

Regarding the impressions, that does seem kind of premature no? Their warranty states a minimum of 1.5 inches for warranties which seems like alot. I know Tempurpedic is 0.75 but that's not the same stuff at all.


This is not premature an expected from these types of mattresses. 1.5" is standard in the industry, you can compare with Savvy rest for example that also only cover visible indentation greater than one and one-half inch.

I understand that latex is a little weird to deal with but sloppy cuts are a different matter. I stopped in to a local store and tried some GreenSleep models and they also have a layered system that isnt glued. They are actually individually put into cotton socks as well which is a nice addition

We don't include individual organic cotton sleeve on each layers for several reasons:
1-Cost savings
2-The layers stick together better and you get less shifting of the layers because of the stickiness of latex on latex
3-It's not really needed as the layers are inside a cover already and you will probably only handle the layers a few times and then never open up the cover again
4-We do offer them if you want them, the cost is $40 per layer in a Queen size.

How do you sleep? I'm personally 5ft-10 160lbs, wider shouldered, small waist. Tend to sleep on my side or stomach. I think I like more of a medium firmness mattress. Definitely not into the sloppy super sunk in feeling all too much. I like the Tempurpedic teal firmness which is their middle firmness I beleive.


You will never get the same feeling out of a pure rubber mattress than you will from a Tempurpedic. Organic dunlop is the most supportive mattress material available, and has a high pushback factor. You will not sink into the mattress and will feel supported.

Good luck in your search, and keep us posted on what you decide to do.

regards

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19 Aug 2019 14:16 #17 by Stefan416

MFC wrote: Hi Stephan416,

I was considering not having the two soft layers and switching one to something else. Mario at MFC had suggested a firm in its place. So S/M/F/F/F which sounds like a good option


Since organic dunlop latex does soften up quite a bit in the first 3 months, you may want to switch one of the 20ILD soft layers to a 30ILD medium layer if you prefer a firmer mattress.

Regarding the impressions, that does seem kind of premature no? Their warranty states a minimum of 1.5 inches for warranties which seems like alot. I know Tempurpedic is 0.75 but that's not the same stuff at all.


This is not premature an expected from these types of mattresses. 1.5" is standard in the industry, you can compare with Savvy rest for example that also only cover visible indentation greater than one and one-half inch.

I understand that latex is a little weird to deal with but sloppy cuts are a different matter. I stopped in to a local store and tried some GreenSleep models and they also have a layered system that isnt glued. They are actually individually put into cotton socks as well which is a nice addition

We don't include individual organic cotton sleeve on each layers for several reasons:
1-Cost savings
2-The layers stick together better and you get less shifting of the layers because of the stickiness of latex on latex
3-It's not really needed as the layers are inside a cover already and you will probably only handle the layers a few times and then never open up the cover again
4-We do offer them if you want them, the cost is $40 per layer in a Queen size.

How do you sleep? I'm personally 5ft-10 160lbs, wider shouldered, small waist. Tend to sleep on my side or stomach. I think I like more of a medium firmness mattress. Definitely not into the sloppy super sunk in feeling all too much. I like the Tempurpedic teal firmness which is their middle firmness I beleive.


You will never get the same feeling out of a pure rubber mattress than you will from a Tempurpedic. Organic dunlop is the most supportive mattress material available, and has a high pushback factor. You will not sink into the mattress and will feel supported.

Good luck in your search, and keep us posted on what you decide to do.

regards


I hope I didnt come off as knocking MFC. I'm definitely not. Offering a latex mattress at your price points is a KILLER deal! Those stores I had visited had price points of 3000-5000( with an equivalent thickness and adjustable model going for around 4000). If your reasonably confident in what layering you want then MFC is right at the top it seems. For me its know what to order that currently hanging me up hence why I'm trying out the firmness option locally first :)

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