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Vispring, Leesa Legend or Berkeley Ergonomics Oslo

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27 Oct 2019 12:23 #1 by Super Sleeper
My husband and I are looking at mattresses, as our needs have changed now that we are in our mid 60s, with more health problems. We are pretty fit and physically active, but I have serious knee problems, arthritis, we both have back problems, and my husband has a serious shoulder problem. We used to love firm mattresses, but need more of a cushioned experience now. We have been sleeping on a Hastens, which we grew to hate very quickly after buying (it’s an instrument of torture), and had serious problems with the company, so we are trying to avoid the same mistakes in purchasing that we made with that purchase. We have narrowed our list down to a few. We love the Vispring (Tiara), but are concerned about some posts we have found on other web sites about durability. In your durability guidelines, you mention cotton, wool, horsehair and silk (the Visping components) as less durable: will these affect the comfort level changes more quickly, even in that high quality mattress? We have encountered some valuations on that brand indicating that they rate low on durability. We also want to ask a question on buying just the mattress without the bed systems that they offer. We have a platform bed, so it will not have the springiness that comes with buying their base, and they do sell the mattress without base…but how smart is it to go in that direction? We have even asked them to let us try the mattress on the floor, to see the comfort level without the base, just want to avoid a serious mistake. We thought if we buy a soft rather than a medium level, it will help compensate for the lack of a base with springs…. Or is it better to go medium, to provide more spring against the harder platform base?

The other mattresses we are looking at are the Berkeley Ergonomics (the Oslo) and the Leesa Legend (and maybe adding a Vispring cotton/wool topper to either one to make them more plush). They both seem to have less of that soft sinking thing we seem to need now. But will they hold up better…in other words, if we buy the Vispring based on it’s initial comfort level, will the materials matte down quickly leaving us with a changed situation, since it is not as durable? Will the Leesa Legend or the Berkeley Oslo be more durable choices, in terms of not changing as much with usage? Of the 3 choices, which would be considered the most hypoallergenic/safe for the consumer? And which may be the best for our particular health issues?

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31 Oct 2019 14:20 #2 by Sensei
Hey Super Sleeper,

Welcome to our Mattress Forum :) ! We hope that you find the information and comments from our moderators, trusted members and other consumer members useful during your research process.

We have narrowed our list down to a few. We love the Vispring (Tiara), but are concerned about some posts we have found on other web sites about durability. In your durability guidelines, you mention cotton, wool, horsehair and silk (the Visping components) as less durable: will these affect the comfort level changes more quickly, even in that high quality mattress?


It sounds like you are referencing this particular passage from the Mattress Durability Guidelines post:
"Materials and components that can have a significant effect on the durability or useful life of a mattress depending on their quality/density or thickness:
• Polyurethane foam (often called polyfoam)
• Memory foam (or gel memory foam)
• Natural fiber batting (cotton, wool, silk, horse hair)
• Semi synthetic fiber batting (rayon made from bamboo or other cellulosic materials or PLA made from corn starch, tapioca roots, or sugarcane)
• Synthetic fiber batting (generally polyester fibers)
• Firm densified polyester fiber"

The emphasis here is on the phrase "depending on their quality/ density or thickness" part of the passage. Vispring incorporates premium quality natural materials in each of their entirely hand-crafted mattresses, placing them on the longer end of the materials/ components durability spectrum.

Also of interest for consideration is your BMI. Have you and your husband calculated your BMI/ Body Mass Index? BMI is based on your height and weight and you can use one of many online BMI calculators (such as here) to determine that number.

Here are some useful quotes from Phoenix regarding "durability" in general:

"Assuming that you sleep well on a mattress when it's new ... durability is the length of time you continue to sleep well on a mattress before changes in the materials and components in the mattress caused by changes in firmness or the normal wear and tear or breakdown of the materials over time lead to a loss of comfort and support to the degree that you no longer sleep "well enough" on a mattress and decide to replace it."

Phoenix also has some helpful insights regarding Vispring and other "ultra premium" mattresses in this post you may find interesting: Matress Shopping in San Antonio Texas #6

We also want to ask a question on buying just the mattress without the bed systems that they offer. We have a platform bed, so it will not have the springiness that comes with buying their base, and they do sell the mattress without base…but how smart is it to go in that direction? We have even asked them to let us try the mattress on the floor, to see the comfort level without the base, just want to avoid a serious mistake. We thought if we buy a soft rather than a medium level, it will help compensate for the lack of a base with springs…. Or is it better to go medium, to provide more spring against the harder platform base?


What type base are you using currently with your platform bed? According to Vispring's web site section "Caring for your bed" there could be warranty issues with using a bed base other than something they offer, you will want specifics from them on that. If you do test their mattress on the floor, comment back afterwards and let us know what your thoughts were.

Will the Leesa Legend or the Berkeley Oslo be more durable choices, in terms of not changing as much with usage? Of the 3 choices, which would be considered the most hypoallergenic/safe for the consumer? And which may be the best for our particular health issues?


Assuming that the materials in a mattress you are considering are durable enough for your body type and meet the guidelines here ... the choice between different types and combinations of materials and components or different types of mattresses (see this article ) are more of a preference and a budget choice than a "better/worse" choice. The best way to know which types of materials or mattresses you tend to prefer in general will be based on some local testing of different types of mattresses to see if you have a preference of one or more types or materials or mattresses over others and whether it will be a good "match" for you in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your Personal preferences).

Thanks,
Sensei

Sensei(@ TMU Team)
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