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17 Dec 2019 08:56 #1 by sb1234
Hi,
We're looking for suggestions for a non-toxic mattress. We tried the avocado green mattress with a soft topper but are finding that we have a two-fold issue. First, the latex is too firm. My husband and I are both side sleepers and while we find the sleep to be cooler than our former Leesa mattress, our hips hurt when we wake up (and this is after trying the mattress for 60+ days). We find ourselves rotating from side to side throughout the night because of discomfort on our sides (shoulders and waist/hip bone contact points are sore). The second issue is that the mattress does not have enough support to keep our body lines relatively level, so our backs are out of alignment. Other background info: we are both skinny folks, and weigh ~115lbs(female), ~145lbs(male) and average height.
What would you recommend for a non-toxic mattress that is supporting but not too firm that sore spots arise when side sleeping?

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19 Dec 2019 07:52 #2 by My Green Mattress
Hi sb1234. Thank you for your question. I would urge you to look at the Natural Escape mattress (MyGreenMattress.com)
It is also a certified organic hybrid latex mattress like the Avocado, but has a few differences. The first being that the spring unit has a more subtle lumbar region. While it is zoned like the avocado, the sleeping areas are firmer in this spring unit, and the difference between the lumbar region and the rest of the sleeping region is less pronounced. The mattress also had 3" of latex vs the 2" of latex in the Avocado. It sounds like you may still need a topper which we offer as well. The topper we offer is a 55D firmness while the Avocado I believe uses a 65D. If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out here or directly to us.

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22 Dec 2019 08:48 - 22 Dec 2019 10:00 #3 by Marshmallowforme
I have tried the following:

Joybed LXP. Was fairly comfortable but returned because in two tries they couldn't send a twinXL that was 80" long and neither mattress had the contents listed on the legal tag. One mattress had no smell. The second had a strong smell. They do not claim to be organic but natural. However, with no tag info who knows what is in the mattress. But I slept the best on this bed. It seemed to have minimal padding where you could feel the coils a bit so you would think this was bad but for me but I just moved around and it was comfortable. Says to have zoning but I couldn't tell.

My Green Mattress Natural Escape. I was crippled by this mattress. The zoning in the center is super firm. My husband is sleeping on it and complains every day about how hard it is. We did buy the plush topper and that helps a bit but I will call this week to initiate a return. I would stay far away from any mattress that puts a hard zone under your hips as there is no way to align your spine in this scenario. Also the My Green Mattress Plush topper does not list any ingredients on the tag. They probably sent what they advertised on their web site but I still like a company that fills out their legal tags properly over one that just ignores them. The Natural Escape had no odor but the plush topper needed to be aired out a few weeks before use to reduce the latex smell.

Naturepedic EOS Classic with plush coils and soft microcoils. Fairly comfortable and no odor. But not as comfortable as the Joybed. However it seems to be better quality with more padding on top as I do not feel the springs underneath the padding. It to is short at 76" for a twinXL (supposed to be 80"). I am looking at their pillow top as an alternative. But I am getting very discouraged regarding the size. It is $200 more for a twinXL (we have adjustable bases to make a king bed) and you only get 1" longer than a regular twin. I hate the feeling of my feet hanging off the end but to avoid it my head has to hang off the end. However it seems to be a pattern that companies who advertise a twinXL don't make them to standard sizes. I miss a true 80" mattress.

What I like about Naturepedic is that you have alot of different choices for the layers and can try them in the store. What I don't like is the price is exhorbitant for what you get. Especially when they short the size of the mattress.

I'm going to go to the store to try the Pillow Top firm coils with the medium microcoils and then the soft microcoils. I tried the plush coils with the medium microcoils and the soft microcoils and found it too soft.

You weigh less than me so may like the Classic with the plush coils and soft microcoils. I find it supportive and weigh more than you. However, I'm also curious to try the Classic with the plush coils and the medium microcoils which I may do through their layer exchange program if I don't pull the trigger on their pillow top. They also have various latex options but I am staying away from them due to getting tired of latex odor.
Last edit: 22 Dec 2019 10:00 by Marshmallowforme.

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28 Dec 2019 23:07 - 28 Dec 2019 23:32 #4 by quest4rest
I'm also a lighter weight side sleeper looking for a latex mattress. Here are some other options you may want to explore in case you haven't come across them yet:
(1) Nest Bedding's Hybrid Latex. The latex in the softest version has an ILD of 19.
(2) Bloom Hybrid by Brooklyn Bedding
(3) Cedar Luxe by Brentwood Homes
(4) The EcoCloud by Winkbeds
Last edit: 28 Dec 2019 23:32 by quest4rest.

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29 Dec 2019 16:39 - 29 Dec 2019 20:37 #5 by deuxcv
i’m puzzled by your twin xl problems. i have noticed that mattresses and box springs tend to be about 1” smaller than their stated dimension, so a twin xl on naturepedic site would by this logic 79” or so. how is it that from 2 companies,you’re ordering twin xl mattresses but getting std twins. really odd.

i see that joybed doesn’t state their mattress dimensions that i could find, but doubt they would deviate from the industry standard other than the 1” oditiy noted above.

shrug.

on the naturepedic note... sucks that your mattress isn’t as comfortable as you had hoped.
Last edit: 29 Dec 2019 20:37 by deuxcv.

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02 Jan 2020 15:22 #6 by Sensei
Hey sb 1234,

Welcome to the TMU Forum :) ! Good having you here and thanks for your question.

We're looking for suggestions for a non-toxic mattress. We tried the avocado green mattress with a soft topper but are finding that we have a two-fold issue. First, the latex is too firm. My husband and I are both side sleepers and while we find the sleep to be cooler than our former Leesa mattress, our hips hurt when we wake up (and this is after trying the mattress for 60+ days). We find ourselves rotating from side to side throughout the night because of discomfort on our sides (shoulders and waist/hip bone contact points are sore). The second issue is that the mattress does not have enough support to keep our body lines relatively level, so our backs are out of alignment. Other background info: we are both skinny folks, and weigh ~115lbs(female), ~145lbs(male) and average height.
What would you recommend for a non-toxic mattress that is supporting but not too firm that sore spots arise when side sleeping?


Thanks also to expert trusted member My Green Mattress for their quick response and suggestion of their Natural Escape mattress as an alternative to your Avocado Green Mattress, hope you found their thoughts helpful.

As there is quite a bit of confusing information available online about toxicity, safety and organic, there is more about the different types of organic and safety certifications such as Oeko-tex, Eco-Institut, Greenguard Gold, C2C, and CertiPUR-US in  post #2 here , and more about some of the differences between organic and safety certifications in  post #2 here  and there are also some comments in  post #42 here  that can help you decide whether an organic certification is important to you for environmental, social, or personal reasons, or whether a "safety" certification is enough, and what those certifications can mean to determine whether the contents of any particular mattress are “safe enough” for you.

There are many choices of safe, natural and organic mattresses but it is always good to keep in mind that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and I would be cautious about using anyone else's suggestions, experiences or reviews on a specific mattress (either positive or negative)  as a reliable source of information or guidance about how you will feel on the same mattress or how suitable or how durable a mattress may be for you. In many if not most cases they can be more misleading than helpful because a mattress that would be a perfect choice for one person or even a larger group of people in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP may be completely unsuitable for someone else to sleep on (even if they are in a similar weight range). This is different than a manufacturer comparing their products to a another products you are considering ... "talk you through" the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and "feel" of the materials they are using (fast or slow response, resilience, firmness etc.) and the options they have available that may be the best "match" for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with, and the "averages" of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about "matching" their specific mattress designs, options, and firmness levels to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.  Post #2 here and  this topic  have more about the pros and cons of a local vs an online purchase.

Just curious, how are you coming along with your mattress shopping?

Cheers,
Sensei

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05 Jan 2020 11:39 #7 by BriannaM
I'm not sure if I should start this as a new post. I'm also looking for a non-toxic hybrid mattress, but can't seem to find exactly what I'm looking for. I tried the Brooklyn Bedding Bloom, the soft version, and it felt great actually, but I ended up donating it because I found out the talalay in it is blended. For personal reasons, I prefer the most natural mattress possible. It doesn't necessarily need to have organic certification.

Ideally I want:
zipper cover of knit organic cotton and wool
100% natural latex layer, either talalay or dunlop, but must have a soft option
coils not zoned (but firmer ones around the edge would be great)
no poly foams in it

I haven't been able to find a mattress that meets my criteria. Arizona Premium Mattress Eco Sleep Hybrid might be an option, but I don't want a bamboo cover. They have a cotton cover, but it seems like they are favoring their bamboo cover on their website, so not sure what the cotton one is like. I've been thinking about the Nest Bedding Hybrid, but there's polyfoam quilting in the cover and then another inch of polyfoam down further in the mattress. I wish there wasn't polyfoam quilted into the cover. I could deal with it being further down in the mattress, but I'm not sure why they put that between the cotton cover and the latex? They have an organic certified version without polyfoam, which would be great, but it has a woven cotton cover. I'm worried that the woven cover will restrict the latex in conforming to my body as I want it to. Latex tends to feel pretty firm to me, so I don't want anything that will make it feel even firmer.

Any suggestions for a mattress that meets what I'm looking for?

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05 Jan 2020 15:29 #8 by Sweet Dreams
I did a search with your desired criteria and found some possibilities, but most don't include a zippered cover:
https://www.bludot.com/the-blu-dot-natural-hybrid-mattress.html
https://www.amorebeds.com/product/amore-natural-mattress
https://happsy.com/happsy-organic-mattress
https://sleepez.com/products/hybrid-latex-mattress
Not sure how important the zippered cover is to you, but these all seem to meet your other needs. Hope it helps and good luck with your search!
- Bill

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06 Jan 2020 18:29 #9 by Marshmallowforme
BriannaM,
Naturepedic meets all your criteria and you and sub out layers so will never have a cratering problem like another poster wanted to avoid.

We have two of their mattresses in trial period. The EOS Classic with plush coils and soft microcoils and the EOS Pillowtop with firm coils, medium microcoils and soft microcoils. They have a zippered top so we are going to try different combinations of the coils. You can get latex instead of the microcoils. Look to see if there is a show room in your area to try them out. They are all organic.

Were next going to reconfigure the mattresses to try the plush coils with the medium microcoils and the firm coils with two layers of soft microcoils. Probably tomorrow night.

Unfortunately the first twinxl was only 76 inches so we emphasized that the second had to be 80 inches. It came in at 79 so we will live with it.

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06 Jan 2020 18:52 #10 by Marshmallowforme
deuxcv,
I too am puzzled by the mattress sizes. They charge more for a twinxl and our old king and queen beds are actually 80" long. So why not the twinxl? Also for the price I'm paying for the Naturepedic I expect every inch to show up. But the best we've gotten so far is 79 inches.

I'm looking forward to trying your combo, plush coils with medium microcoils in the next few nights. It is no small feat to get them reconfigured so were going to try each combo for a couple of nights at a time.

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