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14 Mar 2021 11:08
Hey CharlesR7,

Welcome to The Mattress Underground :) ! Thanks for your question.

I am an average sized man (5'11" 160 lb) and sleep combo side and back. I'm currently on a purple hybrid (2" one) but it is causing me a lot of problems with my lumbar. Despite this one often reviewed as "too firm" my butt seems to sink down way too low on my back, while my lower and upper back barely do at all. I also trialed an Amerisleep AS3 but that was giving me problems higher in the back, probably from being too soft. My wife is on an AS2 and that is clearly too hard for me to side sleep.


Thanks for including your personal stats for providing insights on your sleep preferences, Charles. I'm sorry to learn of the lumbar issues you had with your Purple Hybrid, as well as higher back discomfort from the Amerisleep AS3. Good to know that your wife is sleeping well on an AS2 and wish that would work out for you both; however to your point, firmer mattresses can be difficult for the side sleeping position of your combo side and back preferences.

I went over to Urban Mattress and sat on everything, expecting to like the memory foam or the latex hybrids. Surprisingly I like the essential collection which is HR cold foam. Specifically the silver lake firm which has the below construction

Stretch-knit fiber over 2 layers of 1.5 inch Certi-pur 3 lb HR Cold Foam

2 inches of Certi-pur 3 lb HR Cold Foam

Firm: 884 6 inch 14.5 gauge pocketed coil with firm edge

This bed felt very supportive to me om my back with limited store time, and soft on my shoulder on my side.

But I am paranoid now of going too soft after my last mattress. Is 5 inches of cold HR foam too much? And will these materials be quality and lasting?


Congrats on your new mattress shopping journey :) ! Thanks for providing spec details on the Silver Lake/ firm model. I took a peek at Urban Mattress's web site to see what other information may be there and saw that this model is recommended for back and side sleepers. Generally speaking, HR/ High Resiliency polyfoam is considered the highest grade of polyfoam and weighs in at 2.5 lbs per cu. ft. or more. A 3 lb density should provide a durable comfort feel, you would want to verify that its support factor is 2.4 or higher, an important part of why an HR polyfoam has the qualities it does, as it is made with a different chemical formula and has a different cell structure than that of HD or conventional polyfoams. I used Urban Mattress's web chat to ask that question, but the chatbot responded that someone would be with me later (I did include an email address and will update you when someone replies). Based on the above specs, the Silver Lake/ Firm could be a good fit for you in terms of a firmer feel and durability, plus they guarantee a no sag/ 15 year replacement option, 100 night sleep trial, and one comfort exchange after a 30 day period. Have you tried any other models recently? Looking forward to hearing your updates and thanks.

Sensei
11 Mar 2021 08:46
Hi all

I am an average sized man (5'11" 160 lb) and sleep combo side and back. I'm currently on a purple hybrid (2" one) but it is causing me a lot of problems with my lumbar. Despite this one often reviewed as "too firm" my butt seems to sink down way too low on my back, while my lower and upper back barely do at all. I also trialed an Amerisleep AS3 but that was giving me problems higher in the back, probably from being too soft. My wife is on an AS2 and that is clearly too hard for me to side sleep.

I went over to Urban Mattress and sat on everything, expecting to like the memory foam or the latex hybrids. Surprisingly I like the essential collection which is HR cold foam. Specifically the silver lake firm which has the below construction

Stretch-knit fiber over 2 layers of 1.5 inch Certi-pur 3 lb HR Cold Foam

2 inches of Certi-pur 3 lb HR Cold Foam

Firm: 884 6 inch 14.5 gauge pocketed coil with firm edge

This bed felt very supportive to me om my back with limited store time, and soft on my shoulder on my side.

But I am paranoid now of going too soft after my last mattress. Is 5 inches of cold HR foam too much? And will these materials be quality and lasting?
11 Jan 2021 08:18
Hey Octonion,

Thanks for your reply and updates :) .

I am not sure why it is not clear to you from what I have written. I simply tried to explain the process of my mattress search and how I ended up concluding that a hybrid mattress of foam + coil is the best combination for a mattress. I explained the issues that I have experienced in using other mattresses.
Also it is totally unclear where you got the idea that I have already purchased the information.


Thank you for explaining your mattress research process, Octonion. My apologies for not following your statement in your previous post : "So I need to go for a hybrid: foam + coil and so I ended up AmeriSleep AS2 Hybrid.". Consumers on the forum often use the expressions "ended up" in the same way as "having bought" or "went with" when casually saying that they purchased a particular mattress.

So I will further simplify my post for you:

1) I have NOT purchased Amerisleep mattress AS2 Hybrid. I am still looking to purchase a mattress and this AS2 Hybrid is at the top of my list.


Congrats on your new mattress shopping journey :) ! From Amerisleep's site, the AS2 Hybrid cutaway image depicts a proprietary gel memory foam comfort layer, a proprietary 5-zoned transition layer over a pocket coil array with perimeter edge support. The mattress comes in one firmness: medium firm. As they do not share any component specifications, you would want to consult with them regarding those details for assurance they would meet appropriate durability guidelines .

2) I am looking for any feedback on the AS2 Hybrid mattress from people who have experienced or have more information about it.


You may have already found this Phoenix post regarding the Amerisleep AS2 (not Hybrid model) ; I included it here as there are many helpful links for your consideration.

3) If there is a similar mattress build from any TMU trusted member list, please let me know.
Thanks!


These TMU trusted members offer similar memory foam hybrid mattresses, they have been linked to their product pages for your review:


Hopefully, you will find some of the links useful. Any of these trusted members would be happy to help you with questions regarding which of their hybrid mattresses may be a close match to the AS2 Hybrid, should you be interested in their products. Here is a checklist of questions that you may find helpful when researching your mattress purchase. With any manufacturer/ retailer that you are considering otherwise, you would want to be sure that their foams are made in the USA and are CertiPUR-US Certified, which means they've been tested by a credible 3rd party for any known harmful chemicals. Hope these thought starters are a bit more helpful and good luck with your mattress shopping journey :) .

Thanks,
Sensei
08 Jan 2021 18:21
Hello Sensei,
I am not sure why it is not clear to you from what I have written. I simply tried to explain the process of my mattress search and how I ended up concluding that a hybrid mattress of foam + coil is the best combination for a mattress. I explained the issues that I have experienced in using other mattresses.
Also it is totally unclear where you got the idea that I have already purchased the information. ;)

So I will further simplify my post for you::)
1) I have NOT purchased Amerisleep mattress AS2 Hybrid. I am still looking to purchase a mattress and this AS2 Hybrid is at the top of my list.
2) I am looking for any feedback on the AS2 Hybrid mattress from people who have experienced or have more information about it.
3) If there is a similar mattress build from any TMU trusted member list, please let me know.
Thanks!
06 Jan 2021 07:17
Hey Octonion,

Welcome back to the forum :) . Thanks for your question.

Could you please let me know is there any updated information/feedback on Amerisleep mattress quality? Any issues or concerns with this now? Searching through the forum, there is one here: www.themattressunderground.com/mattress-forum/index/12548-mattress-comfort-layers-memory-foam?start=60 , but it does not say anything bad about Amerisleep.


Perhaps you could be a bit more specific as to what concerns you have, Octonion. As Amerisleep has no relationship with the TMU, I have no direct knowledge of "updated information/ feedback" on their quality. I appreciate that you did use the site search function as many questions can be easily answered with that resource.

...Please let me know if there is any weak links in AS2 Hybrid build. If there is a similar feeling mattress that has higher quality components, please let me know as well
…So I need to go for a hybrid: foam + coil and so I ended up AmeriSleep AS2 Hybrid….
...I looked into the Trusted Members Directory for Foam + Coil Hybrid to match with AmeriSleep AS2 Hybrid. But I couldn't find one that has this Foam + Coil Hybrid combo. If I missed any good alternative to AS2 Hybrid, please let me know.


The above quotes I pulled together as a summary for some questions for you: if you liked the AmeriSleep AS2 Hybrid in the showroom and ended up getting it, how has it been working for you so far? As you have already purchased the mattress, is there a particular reason you are asking about "weak links"?

Thanks,
Sensei
03 Jan 2021 20:53
Hello,
Could you please let me know is there any updated information/feedback on Amerisleep mattress quality? Any issues or concerns with this now?

Searching through the forum, there is one here: www.themattressunderground.com/mattress-forum/index/12548-mattress-comfort-layers-memory-foam?start=60 , but it does not say anything bad about Amerisleep.
I have pain in the lower back using my current mattress (Avocado green mattress): The pain is in the lower back and similar to the one shown in this picture: www.themattressunderground.com/mattress-forum/index/21045-keep-waking-up-with-my-lower-back-twisted#71666

Avocado green mattress does not conform to the body when laying on my back. There is no support to the lower back at all. The coils are a disaster. I only get support if I move to the edge of the mattress (quantum edge support, which means no support elsewhere unfortunately). Otherwise in the middle of the mattress, my hip and bum sink (I am 5ft 11", 195lbs). I have more weight in my tummy and bum. What a disappointment with Avocado mattress, which I thought is going to solve all my mattress problems.
Avocado green mattress has quality control issues and the products they ship does not match with their website postings nor with the one available in the online showroom in Austin: www.oursleepguide.com/austin-texas-mattress-showroom/

I am in Austin TX and I finally tested Casper Original Hybrid which was ok. Wave Hybrid and Nova Hybrid did not offer me enough support for the lower back -- on these beds when lying flat, I had to lift and draw my legs inward to get the support on the lower back.
I tested Amerisleep AS2 Hybrid and it provided the lower back support when lying flat and also felt comfortable when lying on the side. amerisleep.com/mattresses-comparison/
King AS2 Hybrid costs $1399.
Please let me know if there is any weak links in AS2 Hybrid build. If there is a similar feeling mattress that has higher quality components, please let me know as well.

After Avocado Green mattress experience, I gave up on Latex Hybrid mattress. Latex does not conform to the body and does not provide the support/pressure relief on the lower back. I tested Obasan zoned all latex mattress which did provide all the support I needed and felt comfortable, but it is very expensive (> $5K) and they do not have any return policy. Obasan have 8- and 6- zoned latex pieces, which I think is the only way to get latex conform to body contours and get support/pressure relief. Just choosing latex layers simply based on ILD from top to bottom is not going to give much support or prevent forming pressure points due to arching of lower back.

So foam of some type (memory foam, poly foam, custom foams from different companies etc) is the way to get body conturing and support. But 100% foam would be too hot when sleeping for 8 hours.
So I need to go for a hybrid: foam + coil and so I ended up AmeriSleep AS2 Hybrid. The combo of Foam + Latex Hybrid would still be warmer than Foam + Coil. So I did not look into Foam + Late Hybrid.

Before buying Avocado Green mattress few months back, I also found Brooklyn Aurora Hybrid and Helix Midnight to be comfortable as well -- but I need to try that again this week to see if it would work.
There are already too many choices to look into and then finally buy one that provides the needed comfort and restful sleep and that does not contain any weak link/low quality materials.

I looked into the Trusted Members Directory for Foam + Coil Hybrid to match with AmeriSleep AS2 Hybrid. But I couldn't find one that has this Foam + Coil Hybrid combo. If I missed any good alternative to AS2 Hybrid, please let me know.
Thanks very much.
12 Aug 2020 22:26
Hi Folks, I hope this is ok. I want to share a list of vegan mattresses I have been compiling in recent months. Thankfully, my favorite mattress maker, didn't disappoint either as they sent me a lovely message today when I messaged them about a need for a vegan mattress with varying layers. Anyway, many of these mattresses are honored manufacturers here on the forum. But please remember to always do your research.

vegan mattresses

UK
veganmattress.co.uk/

U.S.

SleepEZ
Not listed as a vegan mattress but this is an affordable latex mattress with no wool cover. Only organic cotton.
ROMA
sleepez.com/products/roma-latex-mattress/

SleepEZ Vegan Mattress
sleepez.com

Flobeds
3 vegan mattresses
Vegan Select Natural Matress (9")
Vegan Deluxe Natural Mattress (12")
Vegan vZone Natural Mattress (12")
www.flobeds.com/organic-vegan-latex-mattress/

Cozy Pure
Can offer all of their mattresses with a vegan cover. Just choose vegan from the options.
www.cozypure.com/organic-latex-mattresses

Kiss Matress
(parent company is sleepez)
Uses eco friendly memory foam topped by 3 inches of talalay latex
Vegan friendly
kiss mattress
kissmattress.com
I went back and forth between this mattress and the ROMA from sleepez. The ROMA won out.

Avocado Vegan Mattress
www.avocadogreenmattress.com/shop/avocado-vegan-mattress/?variant=twin

Joybed LXC
joybeds.com/lxc-natural-mattress.html

EarthSake Vegan Hemp Mattress
earthsake.com/store/HempMattress.html

420 bed
Hemp and memory foam mattress
the420bed.com/shop/mattress/

Live and Sleep
Eco Friendly Memory Foam Mattress
liveandsleep.com/

Goodnight Naturals
7 inch vegan mattress (latex)
10 inch vegan mattress (latex)
goodnightnaturals.com/natural-latex-mattresses.html

Amerisleep
Has 3 or 4 eco friendly memory foam mattresses that are vegan friendly
amerisleep.com/as5.html

Luxi
Eco Friendly Memory Foam (not all memory foam is eco friendly)
luxiagi.com/

White Lotus
whitelotushome.com/mattresses/vegan-mattresses/

Nectar Mattress
Uses tencel and plant-based polyurethane
nectarsleep.com

Naturepedic Vegan Mattress
sleepworksny.com/product/eos-vegan-trilux-by-naturepedic/

Urth Sleep Green Mattress
urthsleepgreenmattress.com/

Harvest Green Original Vegan Mattress
harvestgreenmattress.com/products/original-vegan

Essentia Mattress
Vegan mattress with memory foam made from rubber tree sap
myessentia.com/

Note from SleepEZ:
On 8/12/20 8:33 PM, Sleep EZ Support wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> Thank you so much for coming back to Sleep EZ! We actually do have vegan
> mattresses, you would just order our organic line but request in the
> "comments" section at checkout that you want us to send it with our organic
> cotton 4-way stretch cover instead of the cotton & wool cover. There's no
> extra charge for that, you just want to make sure the top layer is not split
> because if your top layer is split you will feel the split through the
> thinner cover.
>
> If I can be of any additional assistance, please do let me know.
>
> Thank you so much and have a great day!
>
> Rodger Hermes
> SleepEZ
> 623-299-9624
22 Jun 2020 10:03

Try Winkbeds


I'm sorry I'm hijacking this thread

Specs from Winkbed:

MemoryLux Firm:
2" layer gel infused hypersoft pillow top (1.8 lb density, 17 ILD)
2" layer Firm AirCell (also a 2.5 lb density, 22 ILD (it pushes back more, has more resistance to weight))
2" 5- Zoned progression foam (1.5 lb density, 65 ILD)
5" Atlas core foam (1.8 lb, 28 ILD)
Quilted bottom side for extra firm feel (this mattress is flippable)


I found Amerisleep specs on their site

amerisleep.com/mattresses-comparison/

Their chat rep said the AS2 would be their closest to the proadapt firm
20 Jun 2020 11:38
I am following this thread. I'm interested in recommendations to match the proadapt firm as well.

We recently got a Brooklyn signature in firm, but we didn't realize how much we both enjoyed the memory foam feel. Don't care for hybrid.

Need firm, looking for something similar to our previous original 20 year old Tempur pedic.

The proadapt firm had the closest feel to us so far. But do not want to spend that much.

We are between Novosbed firm, Amerisleep as1 at the moment.

Ghostbed also but I wish they made different firmness levels.
07 Apr 2020 09:54
Hello,
I am a lightweight (125lbs) side sleeper with back issues. I have scoliosis so I really need a mattress that is going to keep me supported and offer pressure relief. My boyfriend is a lightweight (145lbs) stomach sleeper. Since we both need such opposite things, I'm having a hard time finding a mattress that will work for both of us. We only want a queen so a split isn't really an option either. I have slightly narrowed it down to the Helix line (moonlight or midnight, can't decide), the casper, the zotto, the tuft and needle mint, or the amerisleep 3 (as3). My boyfriend can give a little more on the firmness because he sometimes sleeps on his side as well, and my back issues are more important in this decision. I am thinking we should go with a mattress firmness of 5, but not sure because we are both so lightweight. Should we go with a 4 or 4.5 or will that be too soft for him? I was pretty decided on the casper but worried it will be too firm for me. HELP!

Thanks so much,
Alexys
20 Jan 2020 13:40
Like so many here, I’m trying to make sense of all the different options and pick a mattress that will work for both me and my partner.

My partner: 6’4” and 235lbs and both a back and side sleeper. He has some moderate lower back issues due to an old weight-lifting injury, where he’ll experience lumbar pain when he does certain lower back exercises. Our old cheap innerspring mattress bothered his lumbar region due to lack of support.

Me: 5’4’” and about 120lbs. Primarily a side sleeper, although I do end up on my back often enough. I had no previous back or sleep issues—until recently. After buying a new bed frame and waiting for a box spring to arrive, we were sleeping on our old, sagging innerspring mattress with no box spring—TERRIBLE IDEA. That was uncomfortable and contributed to what came next, but my main issues started once our new Amerisleep medium-firm memory foam mattress arrived. After sleeping with the new box spring and Amerisleep mattress for one night, the very next day I experienced considerable pain in my lumbar region after I twisted my torso in a normal movement. The pain eventually centralized in my right sacrum/SI joint, though other parts of my lower spine could be involved. At first I blamed the old mattress and lack of box spring, but after a month with no relief, I eventually realized the new memory foam mattress was exacerbating or even causing my problems. I’ve been sleeping on the floor with a cheap innerspring mattress and it seems to be slowly helping somewhat.

I’m now understandably wary about new mattresses! After going through your guidelines, I’m eyeing a King sized latex hybrid mattress system with a pocketed coil support system. We'll probably want something with medium-firm support (correct me if I'm wrong). Now I’m just trying to choose.

Support is key, especially with our weight discrepancies and my current back issues. Of course I also want something that is comfortable and holds up! I’ve been looking at the Luma Latex Hybrid and the Nest Hybrid Latex, but I’d really appreciate some guidance. The Ultimate Hybrid Pocket Coil/Latex by Arizona Premium Mattress looks great, but I’m hesitant to buy something with a difficult, costly return if it doesn’t work for us (and I live in South Florida). Is there a mattress with similar stats to the Ultimate Hybrid that has a generous sleep trial and an easier shipping/return process? Or what other mattress would best fit our needs? Any input would be appreciated.
26 Nov 2019 13:36
Hello,

I have a Amerisleep AS4 mattress that was recently replaced for a warranty issue. The replacement mattress is firmer than the original and both my wife and I now are experiencing back and shoulder issues. I see you sell an all natural 3" topper. I'm considering getting one in the "soft" configuration so that we can change the "comfort" of the mattress yet keep the "support" the mattress currently has (if that makes sense).

In reading up on material to help with our issue it just seems latex is the best option for us. If my band aid approach is not recommended please feel free to let me know, we are not ruling out a new mattress.

Thank you
21 May 2019 10:42
Hi Sensei,

Thanks for the thoughts on the Amerisleep - that makes a lot of sense!

I wanted to circle back to the question about buying a polyfoam core/base vs building off the existing Novosbed. I felt like I was on the right track, but yesterday was one of the warmest days we've had this year and the bed felt completely different. I woke up with nerve compression/tingly feet :( I know temperature changes MF feel, but it seems a bit much to have winter vs summer versions of my bed layers!

Mostly, I'm wondering if the 3 inches of MF in the top comfort layers in the Novosbed aren't stable enough to build on, since they're so impacted by the warmer weather (1" - 3.7lb / 8 IFD and 2" - Plush 2.5lb / 12IFD)?

Would it be better to build on an actual polyfoam support core? If so, I'm having trouble finding a list of places to get a core/recommendations on polyfoam cores from TMU (might not be searching for right keywords...).

Or should I continue to focus on the few inches of MF I'm adding on top? Last night, it felt like I was going right through the top MF comfort layer/topper....again maybe bc of the warmer weather. When MF gets warm, I think that means that my whole body "goes through" or compresses more (not just the heavier hips/butt) and hits the firmer layer underneath, in which case, I'd want to add in another comfort layer to cushion? I really wish I understood the physics here more!

Thank you again!
18 May 2019 12:31
Hey Mia1234

Just fyi, once you mentioned the Amerisleep gave you some kind of "arching" thing, I didnt really compare the two products. I did do a quick lookup on the Amerisleep AS4 and I have to say that I don't really even know what this layer is:

ENHANCED "FEELS-LIKE-YOU'RE-FLOATING" LAYER

The Affinity layer with Surface Modification Technology (SMT) is our ergonomic transition foam. It has “zones” that provide extra pressure relief in key areas like the shoulders and lower back, along with precision-cut channels that carry away even more heat and moisture. It’s enough to make you feel like you're weightlessly resting on a cloud.



It may be that this "zoning" they have in this layer, does have too much firmness and/or pushback on your hips/lower back area. It seems like this may not be the right one to try to improve as we may be trying to overcome other variables that don't work for you. Just my thoughts after taking a look at the Amerisleep AS4.

Have a good weekend.

Sensei
17 May 2019 12:29
Thanks, Sensei! That makes sense. I am trying them under the fitted sheet and some of the toppers have comfy covers on them too.

If you end up with any thoughts about Novosbed as a "base," just getting an actual foam base, or trying harder to make the Amerisleep a base, I'm all ears! Thanks again.
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