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05 May 2021 09:40
I've been thinking about going with something like a DIY Plushbeds Botanical Bliss but with only 3 layers to start with. Their 10" model has 3x 3" med. med-soft and a soft layers. The 12" model has 3x 3" med-firm, med. med-soft and a additional 2" soft layer. I currently have a 34ILD med/med-firm Dunlop in my possession and a soft 20ILD Dunlop on backorder. I've found a small handful of sites that are both affordable and that have something in between 34ILD and 20IL with only one being GOLS certified.

diymattress.com/product/dunlop-topper/ (100% Natural Latex Arpico 28-32ild med $229 -or- 20-25ild soft $200)
latexmattressfactory.com/products/latex-mattress-topper?variant=17415900353 (100% Natural Latex 28ILD $229)
naturallynestled.com/product/nestled-organic-latex-mattress-topper/ (GOLS 26ILD $270)
naturallynestled.com/product/nestled-natural-latex-mattress-topper/ (100% natural latex 26ILD. $232)

1. Is it a good idea to go with a progressive firmness mattress? (130lb. side sleeper).

2. Would I notice a difference between a 34ILD and 26-28ILD? Would I notice the difference between 26-28ILD and 20ILD? Since Dunlop doesn't come at an exact ILD but rather a range of ILDs would trying to get something between 34ILD and 20ILD be a silly idea? In other words if my 34 was actually a 33 and my 20 was actually a 21 would trying to add something that may end up within or two to four points of what I already have be a crazy idea since we really don't know the exact ILDs? See diymattress ILD range he stated above. I could end up buying something close to what I already have. If that is the case wouldn't going with a 34ILD + 34ILD +20ILD setup make more sense?

3. Do you know anyone else that offers quality 100% natural or GOLS certified Dunlop toppers in the 26iLD to 28ILD range that's less than $300?

4. Only one of the vendors above is a trusted member. Do you know anything about the other's reputation?

5. When it comes to the actual topper by itself GOLS and 100% natural are both 100% safe and basically the same correct?
07 Feb 2021 12:54
Hey Eric,

Welcome back to The TMU forum :) ! Nice to see you and thanks for your question.

My wife and I have been on the bed replacement journey. We are on the lighter side and average heights. We tried to buy a Luma Sleep first at the start of the pandemic but kept running into shipping delays so we had to go another direction. We were replacing a 12 year old mattress and started with a PlushBeds Latex Hybrid. We found it to be somewhat uncomfortable and exchanged the topper for a softer one. That didn't help. We ended up donating the bed and their customer service was helpful. However, they deleted my review from their website.


Indeed; you have been on your bed replacement journey for nearly a year now! That's quite a long time to be searching still, but as you mentioned with the pandemic, life has been more than topsy-turvy for all these past many months. I am sorry to hear of your PlushBeds mixed satisfaction experience, Eric. On the good side, it's nice that their customer service was helpful and did the right thing by helping with your comfort exchange and by honoring your return. On the down side, it's a shame that your review was removed and that your voice wasn't heard, one of the many pitfalls of review sites in general. While consumers cannot base their choices on what another may "feel" on a particular mattress, they can gain valuable insight learning of other's experiences with a brand in terms of the quality and durability of a mattress, as well as the customer service experience provided. Let's hope that none of these will be a concern during your next experience.

We did more research and purchased a Brentwood Home Oceano Hybrid, due to my wife liking our guest room Stearns and Foster hybrid with memory foam a lot. It's a luxury firm. And, we didn't like the bouncy latex we experienced on PlushBed. The specs are below on our King mattress (resting on a solid platform).


Congrats on your new Oceano Luxury Hybrid mattress! Thanks for including the detailed product specs, as that saved a click or two for researching your question. I did take a look at the product page to check out the model's cutaway images, there are many helpful pics and descriptions of their products for review. To keep the thread tidy, I chose not to re-copy/ paste all of the spec details but will select highlights for reference as needed.

We found the bed to be firmer than was expected. We've seen some sites rate it a 7 out of 10 on the firmness scale. When we slept on our sides, we both experience shoulder pain. Lower back pain was much better.


I'm sorry to learn of you both experiencing shoulder pain but happy to know that your lower back pain is improving. Here are several questions to help zero in on your particular comfort issues, Eric. What brand and type was your previous 12 year old mattress? What were some of the qualities that you liked about it? Are you looking for something with a similar feel and response? How long have you been sleeping on your new Oceano Luxury Hybrid? Your bodies may be in the process of adjusting to the different feel of a dunlop latex comfort layer in your former PlushBeds hybrid to the memory foam/micro coil comfort layer of the Oceano. While you describe you both as "We are on the lighter side and average heights", it would be helpful if you could elaborate more on your personal stats , including height, weight, body profile/ weight distribution and preferred sleep position(s). The Oceano Hybrid support core has seven zones and it would be interesting to know how your bodies are aligning within those areas and how that may contribute to the pressure point pain you are experiencing.

To solve for the shoulder pain, we purchased a topper from them that contained a wool layer and 2" of 4lb 14 ILD memory foam encased in thick organic cotton. While our shoulders are mostly fine now, back pain has returned.


That depends to a degree on your responses to the personal stats question above, Eric. The topper that you're currently using is a 2" gel memory foam topper. If your shoulder pain is minimized but your back pain has returned, you are having a spinal alignment issue. You may consider having your wife photograph you while lying in your side sleeping position on the mattress. If your alignment is correct, you should be able to see a clear horizontal positioning of your spine from your neck and shoulders to your lower back area. You can do the same experiment for her as well. The degree of "sinking into" the topper will give more clues on how to best remedy both your pressure point pain areas.

They are offering to send us a different topper that is more firm and made of polyfoam rated at 1.8lb 30 ILD. Will this work to help relieve the pressure points? This topper is simply covered by a thin material, not the thicker cotton and wool layers.


A polyfoam of a 30 ILD would provide a medium firmness in feel. For more information regarding pressure relief in the comfort layers and proper spinal alignment in the support layers, please review "The Basic Functions of a Mattress" . Unfortunately, there is no way with any certainty to predict whether this topper will provide the comfort feel that you seek, as only you can "feel" what you feel in a mattress's materials, comfort layers and support layers. You may find Phoenix's advice in post#2 insightful as it relates to what you're going through. Have you been able to talk with someone directly at Brentwood Home regarding your concerns regarding pressure point relief differences in the two toppers?

We just want to find the right mattress, preferably with more natural materials, that has good pressure point relief. Thank you for any input and insights!


We want to help guide you along the path if we can, Eric. Feel free to check out TMU's Trusted Member Directory , you may find your "right mattress" among one of these fine manufacturers/ retailers who have all earned the "Recommended by The Mattress Underground" credential by providing expertise, quality and transparency in the mattress industry to consumers. Looking forward to your response when you have time… :) .

Thanks,
Sensei
06 Feb 2021 13:43
Ok, so upon further review, seems myISense isn't very plush even at low levels... makes sense, as its adjustability is purely in the center... (I read this on reddit).

So I am now looking at av ariety of beds..
1. Nola Signature 12
2. Brentwood - Oceano Luxury Hybrid (This one worries me because they claim "cooling gel" but everytime I use a mattress topper (2-3in) I find I am sweating in the middle of the night).
3. Nest - Alexander Signature Hybrid - Plush or Medium (leaning Medium)
4. WinkBeds - GravityLux in Soft
5. Plushbeds - Luxury Bliss Natural Latex (but I have zero latex experience), and doesnt seem as plush as a temperedic is (which we like).

It seems they all have reasonable cooling, and are good for pressure relief for side-sleepers. They all sit at $2k or less, which is great too.

Ill keep updating based on research, its just... mentally exhausting!.

Any thoughts or suggestions?
04 Feb 2021 12:36
My wife and I have been on the bed replacement journey. We are on the lighter side and average heights. We tried to buy a Luma Sleep first at the start of the pandemic but kept running into shipping delays so we had to go another direction. We were replacing a 12 year old mattress and started with a PlushBeds Latex Hybrid. We found it to be somewhat uncomfortable and exchanged the topper for a softer one. That didn't help. We ended up donating the bed and their customer service was helpful. However, they deleted my review from their website.

We did more research and purchased a Brentwood Home Oceano Hybrid, due to my wife liking our guest room Stearns and Foster hybrid with memory foam a lot. It's a luxury firm. And, we didn't like the bouncy latex we experienced on PlushBed. The specs are below on our King mattress (resting on a solid platform).

FEEL: The Oceano Mattress offers a medium-soft feel. It rates as a 4.5 on a firmness scale of 1 to 10 (with 10 being the firmest).
MATERIALS:
Plant-Based Tencel™ Blended Fabric Cover
Softer than silk, with unique moisture-absorbing abilities, our Plant-Based Tencel is airy, soft to the skin, and luxurious. Sustainably-produced from eucalyptus trees, Tencel is a USDA certified biobased material. In fact, the closed-loop system for producing Tencel received the European Award for the Environment from the European Commission.

GOTS Organic Certified Wool
Our 100% GOTS organic certified wool provides temperature regulation, moisture-wicking and flame retardancy without the use of chemicals or synthetic fibers. Our organic certified wool is sustainably sourced from our own organic cooperatives in India.
Wool Volume: 1.2 ouces/sq ft.

Luxurious Natural Poly-Silk Fiber
A premium and unique fiber blend for lightness and enhanced breathability that only natural silk provides.

Cooling memory foam with plant-based BioFoam®
A CertiPUR-US® certified contouring memory foam with plant-based BioFoam® for pressure-relief and cooling.
Density: 4lb/ft3, ILD: 14

Responsive Micro-Support: Up to 1,722 Comfort Coils
A 2.5-inch layer of up to 1,722 individually-wrapped micro-pocketed recycled steel coils for ultra-responsive comfort and precision support.
Counts: King: 1722

Air Luxe Foam
CertiPUR-US® certified. 1-inch of deep comfort for pressure-point relief, that is notably airy and cool.
Density: 1.8lb/ft3, ILD: 30

Ultra Support System: Up to 975 Support Coils
Our 7-zones, 8-inch ActivEdge™ Quantum® Edge coil unit from Leggett & Platt® features up to 975 individually pocketed coils, plus a reinforced perimeter. Total height: 8 inches.
Coil Counts: King: 975

Premium Base Support Foam
1-inch of luxe CertiPUR-US® Certified High-Density support foam.

Organic Cotton Canvas Base
100% GOTS organic certified cotton canvas base in a beautiful Herringbone pattern.

We found the bed to be firmer than was expected. We've seen some sites rate it a 7 out of 10 on the firmness scale. When we slept on our sides, we both experience shoulder pain. Lower back pain was much better. To solve for the shoulder pain, we purchased a topper from them that contained a wool layer and 2" of 4lb 14 ILD memory foam encased in thick organic cotton. While our shoulders are mostly fine now, back pain has returned. They are offering to send us a different topper that is more firm and made of polyfoam rated at 1.8lb 30 ILD. Will this work to help relieve the pressure points? This topper is simply covered by a thin material, not the thicker cotton and wool layers.

We just want to find the right mattress, preferably with more natural materials, that has good pressure point relief.

Thank you for any input and insights!

Eric
29 Jan 2021 09:30
Hey cmart,

Welcome to the Mattress Underground :) !Thanks for your question.

Wanted to start my research early as I am planning on purchasing a new mattress this summer. I am 5’ 10” 180 lbs and strictly a stomach sleeper. I also sleep exceedingly hot and temperature regulation is my biggest concern when buying a new mattress. To combat the heat I’ve purchased linen bedding, sleep in only underwear, and set the thermostat to 59-62 degrees depending on the season and yet will still wake up drenched in sweat occasionally. Currently I am sleeping on a Sealy Posturepedic preferred series Casy plush pillowtop (hand me down from my parents), which after some initial research seems far from ideal given my dimensions and sleeping habits. While heat retention is my biggest concern I am also starting to feel the signs of getting older, my middle-lower back is starting to have some aches in the morning and I’d like to get ahead of it. At the beginning of quarantine I did purchase a Plushbeds Botanical Bliss firm latex mattress but it felt like I was on fire all night and couldn’t stay asleep for more than a couple hours, thankfully they have a wonderful return policy. Since that experience I have been afraid of how poorly a new mattress can go.


Congrats cmart on your new mattress shopping journey :) ! Good thinking on making a head start with your research as that will give you an optimal amount of lead time for making the best possible choice. "Sleeping hot" and temperature regulation are two of the more widely discussed issues on the forum and also two of the most personally perceived in varying degrees of discomfort. You are heading in the right direction by addressing bed linens, sleepwear and thermostat settings, but you may also consider other variables such as your bedroom's humidity level, whether your bed's foundation allows for proper air circulation, what type mattress protector is being used (if you are using one), what type pillows/ what condition they are in, and ultimately, what materials and construction is your mattress made of. Opting for natural-fiber materials , when available in their best versions, will provide high-quality choices that are the most breathable, comfortable, and durable. Your preferred stomach sleeping position could potentially become a bit of an uncomfortable position as you gradually age, this flattest of sleeping profiles can result in your body's "sinking in" too far when the comfort layer of the mattress isn't firm enough. I am sorry to hear that the PlushBeds Botanical Bliss/ firm mattress didn't work out, as its specs from their site seem to be a good match for your preferences: organic cotton cover, organic wool, talalay latex comfort layer, dunlop latex support layer. These all natural fibers and foams normally would provide the natural cooling, optimal air circulating and natural temperature regulation properties you seek. As you have already returned the mattress and are trying to avoid a similar experience, here are two questions for you: which thickness of the Botanical Bliss/ firm did you have and what type foundation did you use?

Should it matter I will be purchasing a king size since I need to sleep in a different area code than my partner because, again, the heat problem. She is 5’ 6” 115 lbs and changes between back and stomach sleeping during the night.


A wise choice, cmart, given your tendency to sleep hot and perhaps too with her tendency to alternate between sleep positions. You could also control any motion transfer issues with a split king/ twin XL mattress set up.

Given the research I’ve done thus far I think what I am looking for is an innerspring firm mattress. Budget isn’t too large of a concern, since I am spending ⅓ of my life on it, if the advice leads to Intellibed being the best option then so be it.


Are you able to test mattresses locally? I see from Intellibed's site that a number of Mattress Firm locations in your area carry their products. As you likely already know, Intellibed's proprietary Gel Matrix support material (similar to buckling column gel ) has a reputation for being quite firm and you may find its feel interesting for supporting your stomach sleeping position.

So with all this information I have a few questions but would love to hear any additional advice should I not ask for it specifically, or if I am incorrect in any of my assumptions as to what would work best. I know I can’t get a guarantee that a mattress will be perfect since each person is different, hopefully I will be able to test them in person but am not afraid to purchase sight unseen. I am located in Chicago, IL if there are specific retailers I should go to.


You may consider checking out these TMU manufacturer's showrooms, they are all located near you and are experts at pairing consumers with best-suited mattresses for their individual comfort and support preferences:


What would likely be the best mattress composition? I know latex is supposed to be the best at regulating heat for foams, but given my experience with the Botanical Bliss I am hesitant. Firm or Medium-Firm? Pillowtop? Latex? Gel? Innerspring? Help!


What qualities does your current Sealy Posturepedic preferred series Casy plush pillowtop have that you do like, and other than its' dimensions, what are some that you don't like? Regarding your brief Botanical Bliss experience, other than "feeling like you were on fire", did you like the "feel" of the talalay / dunlop layer combination? Did you find the firm support adequate for your stomach sleeping profile?

What are the high quality brands I can narrow it down to? Stearns and Foster come up a lot but I’ve seen them be negatively reviewed with a drop in quality over the years, starting to use cheaper materials which more easily create body imprints. I’ve seen the trusted members directory on TMU, which brands should I consider from there? Past brands are there any specific mattresses that likely fit my needs? Obviously any added material will retain heat but should I be considering a pillowtop or not?


If you've read many of the moderators' responses here, you'll notice that we tend to de-emphasis the "importance" of big national mattress brand names in favor of smaller regional/ local manufacturers who offer high quality, high value components at a lower price to consumers. I also suggest you review the TMU Trusted Member Directory after answering some of my above thought-starter questions and see if perhaps some of them may be helpful for your research process. You may also ask any of them questions that relate to your mattress hunting and may receive as a Thank You a small TMU discount towards purchase of a new mattress. In terms of having a mattress pillow top in your set up, that is a choice of comfort preference and you would want to have a good understanding of what materials and combinations would be best suited for your flatter stomach-sleeping profile. Good luck with your research cmart and looking forward to your response when you have time.

Thanks,
Sensei
26 Jan 2021 12:58
Hi TMU,

Wanted to start my research early as I am planning on purchasing a new mattress this summer. I am 5’ 10” 180 lbs and strictly a stomach sleeper. I also sleep exceedingly hot and temperature regulation is my biggest concern when buying a new mattress. To combat the heat I’ve purchased linen bedding, sleep in only underwear, and set the thermostat to 59-62 degrees depending on the season and yet will still wake up drenched in sweat occasionally. Currently I am sleeping on a Sealy Posturepedic preferred series Casy plush pillowtop (hand me down from my parents), which after some initial research seems far from ideal given my dimensions and sleeping habits. While heat retention is my biggest concern I am also starting to feel the signs of getting older, my middle-lower back is starting to have some aches in the morning and I’d like to get ahead of it. At the beginning of quarantine I did purchase a Plushbeds Botanical Bliss firm latex mattress but it felt like I was on fire all night and couldn’t stay asleep for more than a couple hours, thankfully they have a wonderful return policy. Since that experience I have been afraid of how poorly a new mattress can go.

Should it matter I will be purchasing a king size since I need to sleep in a different area code than my partner because, again, the heat problem. She is 5’ 6” 115 lbs and changes between back and stomach sleeping during the night.

Given the research I’ve done thus far I think what I am looking for is an innerspring firm mattress. Budget isn’t too large of a concern, since I am spending ⅓ of my life on it, if the advice leads to Intellibed being the best option then so be it.

So with all this information I have a few questions but would love to hear any additional advice should I not ask for it specifically, or if I am incorrect in any of my assumptions as to what would work best. I know I can’t get a guarantee that a mattress will be perfect since each person is different, hopefully I will be able to test them in person but am not afraid to purchase sight unseen. I am located in Chicago, IL if there are specific retailers I should go to.

What would likely be the best mattress composition? I know latex is supposed to be the best at regulating heat for foams, but given my experience with the Botanical Bliss I am hesitant. Firm or Medium-Firm? Pillowtop? Latex? Gel? Innerspring? Help!
What are the high quality brands I can narrow it down to? Stearns and Foster come up a lot but I’ve seen them be negatively reviewed with a drop in quality over the years, starting to use cheaper materials which more easily create body imprints. I’ve seen the trusted members directory on TMU, which brands should I consider from there?
Past brands are there any specific mattresses that likely fit my needs?
Obviously any added material will retain heat but should I be considering a pillowtop or not?

Thanks!
12 Jan 2021 04:51
Another mattress you may want to consider is from TMU Trusted Member Sleep On Latex . They offer an exceptional value organic latex mattress which comes to just over 8" in height, with 8" of latex (often a bit shorter due to tolerances) in an organic cotton cover with a bit of quilted wool. They have excellent customer service so you can contact them to discuss your needs or any potential concerns you may have.

One warning about PlushBeds is regarding their return policy. If you decide to initiate a return of their mattress they require you to box it and have it waiting curbside when the driver arrives for the pickup. Since the box the mattress ships in when it is compressed cannot be used on the expanded mattress, you're required to purchase a full sized mattress shipping box which you must find and then manage to get the mattress into it. Their drivers will not assist with moving it so you have to move the boxed mattress to the curb for pickup at the scheduled time which can be quite difficult. They don't make all of the details of their return process very clear on their site so I thought you should be aware that it's not as easy as if they came and picked it up from your home as many other companies do.

Good luck with your mattress selection journey!

- Bill
11 Jan 2021 12:49
Great help, thank you. PlushBeds looks like the answer to my need for a firm, high quality mattress that is no more than 8" high. I guess I missed that one in my search. I even have a choice, there, of a memory foam 8" or a latex 8". They say that latex is firmer, so that would be my preference. By the way, for the benefit of other readers, I should add that Magnaflex mattresses are all > 8" high but customer service told me that it may be possible to get a custom 8" Magnaflex from a dealer. I am having a local dealer look into it. All of the Brentwood Home mattresses are > 8" so not suitable.
11 Jan 2021 10:30
Magniflex, I believe they are oeko tex certified memory foam. Brentwood home & plushbeds both use greenguard gold memory foam.
23 Dec 2020 08:40
Hello! I have a flobeds V-Zone on top of a KT nomad frame. I’ve noticed after a little bit of experimentation that I sleep quite a bit better when the mattress is placed on top of the my carpeted floor. The carpet has a little give to it, just a nudge, and it allows me to sink into the latex layers more and not feel the bounce-back of my own energy. I can sleep quite comfortably on my side when it’s on the floor, but when it’s on the wooden frame, I usually wake up with at least a few aches and pains. I’m quite bony and need to develop muscle mass in my shoulders, and I’ve also gone ahead and ordered a wool topper from Plushbeds which should add some softness, but I’m curious if there are any ways I could make a frame that is supportive but like the carpet, allows the me to sink into the latex more. I’ve talked to Flobeds and they recommended a wool topper and possibly a layer of coir. I’m also planning on building my own bed frame (since i live next to a lumber mill) and was curious if there are any designs like the width or distance between slats that could increase or decrease softness. Alas I have a full sized bed or else I’d be looking into euro slats which seem designed for this very problem, but they don’t seem to come in full size. Any help or thoughts on this issue would be lovely. Finding the right sleeping solutions is quite a journey!
20 Dec 2020 12:56
Hey NewMutant,

Thanks for your response :) .

I’d actually prefer something that isn’t latex, I’ve had a latex mattress before and it was the worst I’ve ever experienced. It was from PlushBeds, which isn’t listed so may not’ve been the best quality, but overall the weight and the lack of “hug” was really rough for my full body pain issues; I have broad shoulders that throw my spine out of whack on firm surfaces due to my low weight, so I prefer a bed that I can sink into for maximum comfort and pain relief (as long as it doesn’t heat up too much).


In your initial post #1 , you describe yourself as a smaller/ lighter weight side sleeper who sleeps hot, has a preference for a medium soft or soft bed, and not a fan of pure memory foam. You found your Plushbeds Natural Bliss dunlop latex mattress to be too firm, but you did like the 3" soft topper, citing that you "like that soft but not sinking into it feeling, the smell, and the consistent firmness. Doesn’t seem to hold onto heat, either." Question: is your Plushbeds 3" soft latex topper made of Talalay or Dunlop latex and what ILD is it? And which type comfort preference are you looking for as you mention both "a bed that I can sink into for maximum comfort and pain relief (as long as it doesn’t heat up too much)" as well as "like that soft but not sinking into it feeling"? You may find these articles "Mattress Comfort Layers: Overview" , "Memory Foam as a Comfort Layer" , and "Latex Foam as a Comfort Layer" helpful for better understanding how these materials function in the upper comfort layers of a mattress. Regarding your broader shoulders, having "wider areas" (typically hips in women and shoulders in men) will need enough thickness and softness to accommodate these wider areas and relieve pressure. If you need a thicker comfort layer than normal, it should always go with a firmer support layer as well to "balance" the sinking down with the "sinking in", you can read more on the role that body weight and shape plays in individual pressure relief and support needed.

Combined with the high price, it’s really putting me off trying any more latex beds. To put it into perspective, I am 115 pounds, and full/double latex beds weigh around 120. I cannot physically handle a bed that weighs more than I do.


While we do not make recommendations for specific mattresses or manufacturers, we do offer and encourage TMU consumer subscribers to consult with and ask questions of our Trusted Member manufacturers/ retailers . They have many years of experience and knowledge designing mattresses, based on working directly with consumers' preferences and needs. Many of the direct-to-consumer mattresses ship roll-packed and compressed in 2-3 boxes as (1) it is easier for the consumer to move several lower weight boxes and (2) it is difficult to ship certain types of mattresses, such as heavier latex in a single box. Of course this isn't always the case, but a quick view of the manufacturer's FAQs will generally state weights, dimensions and how the mattresses are boxed for shipping. Good luck with your continued research ;) .

Thanks,
Sensei
17 Dec 2020 14:59
Hi Jacksonhp9.

Congratulations on your new mattress Purchase from FloBeds. :)

As you probably know FlowBeds is one of the Trusted Members of our site.

I’m a big fan of wool and after talking to FloBeds they recommended I get a 2-3 inch wool topper to add just a little bit more softness. I’m looking for advise on a few different toppers I’m looking at. It’s quite an investment so I want to make sure I”m making a solid decision.


Depending on the fiber size and breed of sheep wool absorbs 50% and alpaca about 35% of its weight in moisture so both are great choices for adding some comfort and temperature regulation.

Plushbeds sources their Eco-Wool batting for their 3” wool topper from Woolgatherer Carding Mill which produces high-loft, good quality wool batting. It has 400 thread cotton-sateen cover. No returns. wool fill is for Full - 13 lbs., for Queen - 15 lbs. Wool will compress and firm up a bit over time forming a more stable cradle. Eco-Wool is certified organic by Oregon Tilth.

Woolroom has a lighter 2-3” pad with organic British wool weighing 30 oz sq/yd and using a 300 thread count organic unbleached cotton. The fill weight for Full - 5.8 lbs, for Queen - 6.8 lbs. Returns within the 30-night sleep trial.

The LaNoodle product you mentioned from CozyPure has great feedback from customers who purchase it and you may wish to do a forum search here to see more comments about it (just skip the LaNoodle pillow entries. Shredded latex can work very well for the pressure-relieving cradle you are looking for.
CozyPure also has a 3” wool topper with Organic cotton that you may wish to have a look at.

Again, it is all about the materials you prefer and how much softness you need to add to your sleep system

You can read a bit more about Wool vs Alpaca comparisons in Post #24 and run it by your personal value equation and what is most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after purchase if your choice doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for).

Hope this offers a bit more guidance in selecting a product that meets most of your needs

Phoenix
16 Dec 2020 10:23
I’d actually prefer something that isn’t latex, I’ve had a latex mattress before and it was the worst I’ve ever experienced. It was from PlushBeds, which isn’t listed so may not’ve been the best quality, but overall the weight and the lack of “hug” was really rough for my full body pain issues; I have broad shoulders that throw my spine out of whack on firm surfaces due to my low weight, so I prefer a bed that I can sink into for maximum comfort and pain relief (as long as it doesn’t heat up too much). Combined with the high price, it’s really putting me off trying any more latex beds.
16 Dec 2020 08:15
Hey NewMutant,

Thanks for your reply :) .

I’m looking for a full size. I’m currently sleeping on a $30 air mattress from target with a 3 inch soft latex bed topper from PlushBeds, they’re both a few months old. I like the air mattress is lightweight, firm yet bouncy, and easy to move in when fully inflated, but there’s not much more going for it; for the bed topper, I like that soft but not sinking into it feeling, the smell, and the consistent firmness. Doesn’t seem to hold onto heat, either. I’d prefer it to be under 100 pounds because I live on a second story and I’m not able to carry much more than 100 pounds up my stairs, as well as using a loft bedframe that I don’t want to stress too much.


You may be a good match for a latex mattress, since you seem to like your latex topper. You would also be able to find a full size in a 9" height from one of these TMU trusted members who offer latex mattress options, although less than 100 lbs may be challenging unless layers are shipped in separate boxes, latex is quite heavy. All use high quality and durable materials and are extremely knowledgeable about latex and different configurations:


You may use the TMU Ask an Expert forum to ask questions directly to the manufacturers and get their advice as well. When you have some time, check out the links above and see what you find there as this would be a good research starting point. Hope this helps and let us know which way you decide to go ;) .

Thanks,
Sensei
15 Dec 2020 14:37
Hello! I recently bought a V-zone from Flo Beds and really like their company and the bed overall- however, I’m quite skinny and bony and latex I’ve found just adds a little bit to much pressure, especially when I sleep on the side. I’m a big fan of wool and after talking to FloBeds they recommended I get a 2-3 inch wool topper to add just a little bit more softness. I’m looking for advise on a few different toppers I’m looking at. It’s quite an investment so I want to make sure I”m making a solid decision.
The main two I’m deciding between are these:

plush beds: www.plushbeds.com/products/plushbeds-natural-luxury-handmade-wool-topper?variant=18769012719714&channel=cpc&source=google&channel=cpc&source=google&matchtype=&kw=&adid=345024440556&addisttype=gpla&gclid=Cj0KCQiAzsz-BRCCARIsANotFgMlS6M3TC90d0bvBmFWObqzX26cLnTpD9U-dWZdBfCmCQicsu3ot_EaAqQxEALw_wcB#tt-reviews-list

This one from the wool room: www.thewoolroom.com/us/us-size-luxury-traceable-organic-topper/

I’ve also been examine the crescent moon alpaca topper which is in the same prize range, but I haven’t been able to read any reviews of it, and it doesn’t seem to have very much filling compared with these which are both 3 inches. I’m also looking at holy lamb, the la noodle, and the wooldbed company. I think I’ll sleep on it (hahaha) and decide on one tomorrow or the next day, so any advice or people’s experiences with these products would be very helpful. Thanks!
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