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Want advice on extra firm dunlop hybrid 06 Aug 2019 10:34 #1

I'm 5'3, 170lb female, back sleeper, sleep in the center of the bed, and I rarely move in my sleep.

I bought a Saatva Classic firm (hybrid), reading online that it is one of the firmest mattresses available. At first it felt firm but after a few days, my lower back started to get stressed and I had that sinking feeling.

I decided to return this mattress and started to go to different stores to try out and really find out what I liked. I realized any form of memory foam or hybrid with memory foam didn’t work for me. I mostly looked at innersprings and my favorite ended up being the Beautyrest Silver Extra Firm (BRS900-C), which is selling at around $800. My budget was actually slightly higher ~$1,500. However, I realized that when mattresses get expensive, mostly they add more foam on top of the mattresses which I hate. I just like extra firm coils with proper zoning, minimum foam, and tight-top, like sleeping on the floor on thick layers of blankets.

When I was trying out different mattresses, I realized that I liked the feel of latex. It felt very soft but also very supportive. So I started reading up and visited a few stores today. After trying out an all-latex and hybrid, I felt that hybrid offered better support. I found the Naturepedic EOS Classic (8” coils + 3” Dunlop 100% latex hybrid) extra firm coils and extra firm latex to be very comfortable.

That mattress is selling at $3000 (Queen) and I’m wondering if there’s a cheaper alternative (online or factory direct) that offers the same 100% Dunlop "extra firm (normal firm doesn’t work for me!)” and also extra firm coils- preferably somewhere I have a reasonable return option or showroom in LA.

Also, is there considerable coil technology difference between a latex manufacturer and a traditional bed manufacturer like Simmons? Maybe buying Beautyrest and putting a Dunlop latex topper is an option? I saw that SleepOnLatex offered a pretty reasonable 3” firm Dunlop topper option.

I would really appreciate any honest input. Thank you so much!!

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Want advice on extra firm dunlop hybrid 06 Aug 2019 11:38 #2

Hi Marina10,

Do you still own/sleep on the NaturePedic EOS Classic? How long did you have it?
Simmons is a category leader in pocketed coils. Adding a 3" extra firm Dunlop topper to a firm Simmons Coil mattress is an interesting idea. Simmons goes by BeautyRest these days.
They have some entry-level mattresses that might just fit your needs when combined with an Extra-Firm Dunlop latex topper.

Good Luck,

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Want advice on extra firm dunlop hybrid 06 Aug 2019 16:13 #3

Thanks for your reply!
I currently own a Saatva but will return it soon. I've only tried NaturePedic EOS Classic in a showroom and it was one of my favorites. It was soft but I didn't feel like I was sinking in. Of course things might turn different over time but that was at least my initial impression.
You mentioned Simmons is a category leader in pocketed coils. Would you say I would sacrifice the quality of coils by buying from a mattress manufacturer whose expertise is more in latex? Or is coil quality more or less standardized?

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Want advice on extra firm dunlop hybrid 07 Aug 2019 06:05 #4

Hi Marina,

If made in the US & Europe, pocketed coils are fairly standardized in regards to comparative specification categories and quality control standards. However, the range of variables within a specification category makes specific coil arrays difficult to compare to one another. Coil count, wire gauge, height, # of turns of the coil, overall length and pre-set (level of coil compression when encased in the pocket) are the main specification elements. There are a handful of companies that mass-produce and sell/supply pocketed coils to the mattress manufacturers. The largest of these is Leggett & Platt. A good number of mattress manufacturers have their own equipment/technology for making pocketed coils and are using the flexibility to produce proprietary coil arrays. Simmons is the largest one of these companies.
The pocketed coils made for Naturepedic are supplied by Texas Pocket Springs, texaspocketsprings.com/ Most pocketed coils used in e-commerce based mattresses are the Quantum Edge design made by Leggett & Platt, beddingcomponents.com/quantum-edge
You do not sacrifice on the quality of the coils by purchasing from a mattress manufacturer that specializes in latex. You do, however, have fewer coil array options. Using a latex comfort layer/topper should provide you with the comfort, support, and durability you seek.
Hope this helps!
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Want advice on extra firm dunlop hybrid 04 Dec 2020 18:24 #5

Luma Sleep wrote: Hi Marina,

their own equipment/technology for making pocketed coils and are using the flexibility to produce proprietary coil arrays. Simmons is the largest one of these companies.
The pocketed coils made for Naturepedic are supplied by Texas Pocket Springs, texaspocketsprings.com/
Hope this helps!
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I'm not so sure that this is correct. Naturepedic states that they produce their coils in-house. "The coils add just the right amount of bounce while providing excellent breathability and heat dissipation. Made in-house without ANY glues or adhesives (a Naturepedic exclusive)."

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Want advice on extra firm dunlop hybrid 05 Dec 2020 00:35 #6

Hello Empusa,

Thank you for reaching out to Luma Sleep via The Mattress Underground. The US Mattress Industry and its supply chain are dynamic and constantly evolving. Our comment was made over 15 months ago. Texas Pocket Springs began licensing its proprietary technology in 2018 and may well have licensed it to Naturepedic so Naturepedic could produce their coils in-house. Part of the proprietary nature of the technology is the sonic welding of the pocket fabric that allows for the coils to be connected without glues or adhesives. We have no reason to doubt Naturepedic's current claims about in-house pocket spring production.

Hope this helps!

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