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Extra Soft Latex for Presto 03 Sep 2019 16:03 #1

Hi Mario,
I have been on the TMU website for about a month and I have researched and researched some more and made a decision that I would go with a full/double latex mattress and your Presto mattress was very interesting to me as I liked the idea of being able to change the comfort level and also the price seems very good for an all latex mattress. I am an hour and half north of Toronto so took several different days to go and lay on some latex mattresses and get an idea of what I prefer and costs. I have discovered that I really prefer a very soft feeling mattress as I have shoulder issues (I am a female 5’9” and weight 164 pounds) and that I may just have to save a little more money to get what I really like. I fell in love with the Green Sleep Ergo Hevea Dolcezza (Dunlop latex 3” firm/3” soft/3” soft/1.5” extra soft - did not get the idls). Also like the Dormio Wakefield (Dunlop latex 6” medium 28-30 idl/3” extra soft 11-12 ild/2” extra soft 11-12ild) and a local company in Barrie (Unique Sleep ) offers a 7 zoned custom 100% natural talalay latex mattress with 3-3” layers and a 2” egg crate top layer and I again prefer the softer layers especially in the shoulder area where they would put in an extra soft zone
Are you able to get extra soft Dunlop latex for the presto mattress, something closer to 11-12 ild.
Thanks

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Extra Soft Latex for Presto 04 Sep 2019 04:10 #2

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Hi Railroader,

Our supplier doesn’t recommend using Organic Dunlop Latex densities below 65 kg/m3 in a mattress. The softest latex we carry is 18-20 ILD in soft.



Sorry I can't help you further.

All the Best!

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Extra Soft Latex for Presto 20 Oct 2019 12:03 #3

Did you ever find one? I also liked that Dormio, am looking for a super soft topper 3" in Toronto...

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Extra Soft Latex for Presto 20 Oct 2019 13:09 #4

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Hi LJsleep,

We may be wrong, but to the best of our knowledge what we get is the softest possible organic dunlop latex for mattress purposes. It ranges from 16 to 22 ILD and has a density of 65 kg/m3. We have a picture from the latex factory chart in India that we visited and 12 ILD in organic dunlop is not on there and we doubt there’s been some change to that. To create a 11-12 ILD latex your density would need to be between 55-60 kg/m3 and our supplier doesn’t recommend using anything below 65 kg/m3 in a mattress to avoid possible failure issues.

If you want an extra soft latex topper another option is an extra soft Talalay in 12 ILD which would be very plush and you’d nearly sink right through it.

Hope this helps you find what you're looking for.

All the best

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Extra Soft Latex for Presto 20 Oct 2019 14:31 #5

Hi LJsleep,
I have made the decision to have a custom zoned mattress made for me by a company here in Barrie called Unique Sleep. The mattress is 100% natural talalay latex and they are able to give me a very very soft zone in the shoulder area without compromising the alignment of support for my back and they also will work with me to make any necessary changes to the layers as needed. The cost is double the MFC latex presto, slightly higher than the Dormio Wakefield but less than the Green Sleep Ergo Hevea Dolcessa. I was just not comfortable going with the MFC after trying so many latex mattress and realizing that I really needed something quite soft for my shoulders. I figure if I am spending that kind of money for a mattress I should get one the is made specifically for me.

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Extra Soft Latex for Presto 20 Oct 2019 14:47 #6

Hi Mario,
I am definitely no expert in latex but the Dormio Wakefield mattress is an all natural Dunlop mattress with a 2” extra soft top layer which they tell me is 11-12 ILD and the Green Sleep also is a Dunlop latex mattress which the salesman at Soma Organic Mattress tells me has a 2” top lay which is 11-12 ILD. I did not confirm the density with either of these mattresses so can make no comment there.

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Extra Soft Latex for Presto 22 Oct 2019 14:20 #7

Hey Railroader,

Welcome to our Mattress Forum ?! Hope you are finding the information here useful for researching your new mattress purchase. Also enjoyed your Q & A with Memory Foam Comfort one of TMU's expert member retailers, they are very responsive and knowledgeable of the mattress industry.

I am an hour and half north of Toronto so took several different days to go and lay on some latex mattresses and get an idea of what I prefer and costs. I have discovered that I really prefer a very soft feeling mattress as I have shoulder issues (I am a female 5’9” and weight 164 pounds) and that I may just have to save a little more money to get what I really like. I fell in love with the Green Sleep Ergo Hevea Dolcezza (Dunlop latex 3” firm/3” soft/3” soft/1.5” extra soft - did not get the idls). Also like the Dormio Wakefield (Dunlop latex 6” medium 28-30 idl/3” extra soft 11-12 ild/2” extra soft 11-12ild) and a local company in Barrie (Unique Sleep ) offers a 7 zoned custom 100% natural talalay latex mattress with 3-3” layers and a 2” egg crate top layer and I again prefer the softer layers especially in the shoulder area where they would put in an extra soft zone


Thanks for sharing the details of your shopping research with our forum members. You will find different people and manufacturers who prefer the properties or "feel" of one material or combination of materials over another but which materials you choose should always be based on personal preference. Any materials in combinations that are suitable for your specific circumstances can provide the combination of PPP (Pressure relief, Posture and alignment, and Personal preferences) and that higher quality materials will last longer than lower quality materials.

BTW, which mattress did you decide on, the custom zoned one you mentioned before?

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Extra Soft Latex for Presto 22 Oct 2019 15:36 #8

Hi Sensei,

Thank you for the welcome and yes your site has been a wonderful source of information. The research was sometimes very overwhelming but I was determined to figure it out and find what I hope will be a perfect mattress for me. I am a widow so do not have to consider a second person when making the decisions so can add that to a benefit of being on my own LOL. Also didn’t have to consult with someone when making the decision to up the budget.

Yes I decided to go with the custom Talalay mattress made from a local retailer here in Barrie, Ontario. Just made sense when spending that much on a mattress to go with a local supplier with great references and reviews who I can turn to for the life of the mattress (as long as they remain in business). My next step is to get measured and then they will put together the mattress. They will work with me for the first 90 days to make any adjustments at no cost.

Again thank you for an amazing site that really gives us the answers needed to be informed consumers.

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Extra Soft Latex for Presto 24 Oct 2019 11:18 #9

That's great news, Railroader; congratulations on choosing a mattress! When you've had a chance to sleep on it for awhile, please check back in and let our TMU forum members know how its working out for you.

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Extra Soft Latex for Presto 06 Aug 2020 18:01 #10

Hi Phoenix/Sensei,

I was told to reply to an existing post because new posts can't be made and you'd see it..

I have read the mattress guide (though I haven't taken it all in- too much there lol- its basically PhD study) I also haven't been able to start the mattress buying process.. I am from the North Bay Ontario area and the sellers listed by Phoenix in 2013 no longer carry latex at all so I didn't bother trying out different comfort layers

a little about me though, I'm a 130lb 5'11 hemiplegic bit.ly/2XAQ9oR
what the illustration is missing, however, is that my left side has a reduced mass. but as you can see in the diagram, my left shoulder is quite small and hunched, and my hip sticks out a lot.

I am mostly a left side sleeper (60-80%) and then I roll onto my back when the side isn't doing it for me. as you might imagine, my shoulder and hip bears most of my load. I do move my legs back and forth though, sometimes my right leg goes forward and therefore my right knee might bear some weight.

I plan to go to Barrie next week to look, including at Unique sleep cited in this post (but not followed up with a review, unfortunately...) they make a 7-zone full tallalay mattress. I do like the idea of zoning because of my dissability, but as all of these layers and zones are replaceable, they must not be glued, so i'd be concerned about shifting... is that a valid concern? They are also very expensive
(Queen size is $2995, 10” $3595, 12” $4195...
King 9” $3850, 10” $4495, 12” $5250)
do these prices sound realistic?

I know in this forum you prefer to give advice on "how to decide" rather than give direct advice, but, do you think zoning is going to be worth it? Its also hard to try all these things myself given my geographic location.. I've been told having latex in a core layer isn't really necessary and foam will do it- that latex is more important in the comfort layer.. do you agree?

One final question would be for recommendations on stores in Barrie that will sell what will suit my needs?

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